HO scale K2 was HO Scale decals (NW Modeling List)
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Mon Sep 28 07:43:24 EDT 2020
Jim,No, I am referring to the brass HO version from many years ago. I can't remember who put it out. Any way, I bought one back then even though it was goofy looking because I figured a streamlined K2 would never be made again. So far, I was right.Jimmy LisleSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Jimmy
I'm assuming you are referring to the Sunset/3rd Rail one in O. I have a 2R version and agree with you. Though I must admit that it does run pretty well.
Jim Kehn
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I used to have one of the brass K2a's. I didn't think that it was done very well. Especially the skyline casing.
Jimmy Lisle
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There is a brass K2 out there in small numbers. The quantity of shells for which there would be a market in plastic is in the dozens, too few for the big manufacturer but just right for 3D printers who produce to the demand. Browser produced mountain drive kits and there are still many good IHC mountains out there.
Jeff Cornelius
On Tuesday, September 22, 2020 NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
Slim and none. And that is optimistic!
You can, however, get a K2 in O scale.
Jim Kehn
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Subject: Re: HO scale decals (NW Modeling List)
This is just a question for th group what do y’all think the odds would be that we could get a plastic or die cast model of the N&W K2 K2A Streamlined locomotives in ho scale? Thanks for your thoughts and hope everyone is doing well.
Sincerely,
Jeff Mueller
On Sep 22, 2020, at 5:03 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
I like your idea and would use the decals you propose.
Walter Davis, Youngsville, NC
On 9/22/2020 11:24 AM, NW Modeling List
wrote:
One other factor to consider when the time comes to put together
the decal sheet. Do you include extra builders plates and class
badges for known factory painted models that are lacking them,
like the Broadway A's and J's? Bare in mind I am not expecting an
answer on this, just trying to generate discussion as Shellscale
and the Society decide what needs to be included in the set, and
how many of each. But I do think there will be a market not just
for people painting models for the first time, but also people who
have either factory or custom painted models that they would want
to go back and add these details to. If I have to buy 6 sets to
apply builders plates to 8 engines, I will, but if I could do the
same number of engines and only buy 2 sets, that would be great.
It all depends on how many decals you have to arrange on the
sheet, or sheets (A lot of Shellscale sets have used 2 sheets).
Also, one revision I like on the most recent Microscale sheet
is they supplied black backgrounds for the builders plates,
which makes a big difference if applying them to an engine with
a smoke box that lacks the boiler jacketing.
Marty Flick
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While excursion era 611
decals have no interest for me I think Marty has the
right idea. If going for the ultimate steam set then
that should also be a part of it.
Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Monday, September 21, 2020, 03:46:10 PM CDT, NW
Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
Not to open up a can of worms, because I know
some people are sensitive about this, but any
possibility of throwing in a couple of excursion era
graphics for 611 on the decal sheet? For example,
decals for the Robert Claytor plaque and the "I am
the thoroughbred of steam..." sticker?
I'd buy the set either way, but if we are going
for the ultimate N&W steam decal set, why not
include as much as possible?
Marty Flick
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Subject: Re: HO scale decals (NW Modeling List)
Richard and I have already been discussing this
and it will be correct. Believe me.
Besides builders and class plates, I am thinking
headlight number boards, number plates, all sizes
and designs of steam, cabside lettering,
appropriate tender tank lettering, etc. etc.
Ken Miller
> On Sep 20, 2020, at 1:39 PM, NW Modeling List
<nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
> All
>
> I would love to see some N&W Steam Decals
produced with research and techniques up to 2020
standards. The B&O folks just got a set in the
last year with the correct lettering style.
Archive research throughout the hobby has brought
these fine details to the fore. Let's include a
detailed usage guide so you don't have to guess
about which lettering size goes where.
>
> But please let's not forget about some of the
smaller size locos like G, M and W and maybe we
can get some of those older brass models out of
closets and from underneath layouts and taking
places of honor on top of the layout. No. 6 has
gathered a lot of dust waiting.
>
> Stoney
> Rick C. Stone
> NWHS #0001
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>> It would be nice to have these decals in
n-scale.
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>> Marty,
>>
>> I checked the ShellSclae, K4, and Tichy
offerings but there is nothing
>> really on point; Tichy offers the stripe
set for the J, and has a generic
>> set of builders plates. Otherwise zilch.
Perhaps the NWHS Modeling
>> committee could address this issue.
>>
>> Jim Brewer
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 PM NW
Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Other than Microscale, are there any
choices for HO scale N&W steam
>>> locomotive decals that include the
builders plates and class badges? I
>>> ordered Microscale's latest revision,
and while it does finally put the
>>> builders plates and class badges in
more of a bronze or brass color instead
>>> of dulux gold like the lettering, it
still has a poor selection of classes
>>> repesented on the plates and badges.
There are no A's, and no Y's other
>>> than Y6b. Their O scale revision
includes these additional classes, so it
>>> is frustrating that the HO version
still does not. I've looked around but
>>> can't find any currently in
production other than Microscale. I know the
>>> Champ sets don't have the plates and
badges I am looking for. Are there
>>> any options besides finding an
appropriately sized "A" in another set and
>>> combining it with the Microscale?
>>>
>>> Marty Flick
>>>
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>> I agree, But I doubt if it will be done,
We seem to be in the minority
>>
>> Joe Grzelak
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>> On 9/20/2020 3:21 AM, NW Modeling List
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>>> It would be nice to have these decals
in n-scale.
>>>
>>> Jeff Wood
>>>
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>> Marty
>>
>> The Society can do the N&W steam
decals, the Microscale set is a bit undersized for
the 10 inch letters. However, we have to order a
fairly high number of sets to keep the pricing
reasonable, and therefore demand must be there for
the investment of time.
>>
>> They can be done with correct builder?s
plates and class plates (Class J plates were
chromed, I believe the streamlined K2 plates were
also chromed) and bronze for most of the others,
the Y3s were cast iron I know for sure, class
plates bronze.
>>
>> We could also include the correct early
small cab size lettering, and the aluminum color
lettering for passenger power.
>>
>> It all depends on demand.
>>
>> Best
>> Ken Miller
>>
>>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 10:41 AM, NW
Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Marty,
>>>
>>> I checked the ShellSclae, K4, and
Tichy offerings but there is nothing really on
point; Tichy offers the stripe set for the J, and
has a generic set of builders plates. Otherwise
zilch. Perhaps the NWHS Modeling committee could
address this issue.
>>>
>>> Jim Brewer
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 PM NW
Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:
>>> Other than Microscale, are there any
choices for HO scale N&W steam locomotive
decals that include the builders plates and class
badges? I ordered Microscale's latest revision,
and while it does finally put the builders plates
and class badges in more of a bronze or brass
color instead of dulux gold like the lettering, it
still has a poor selection of classes repesented
on the plates and badges. There are no A's, and no
Y's other than Y6b. Their O scale revision
includes these additional classes, so it is
frustrating that the HO version still does not.
I've looked around but can't find any currently in
production other than Microscale. I know the Champ
sets don't have the plates and badges I am looking
for. Are there any options besides finding an
appropriately sized "A" in another set and
combining it with the Microscale?
>>>
>>> Marty Flick
>>>
>>>
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>> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 16:30:38 +0000
>> From: NW Modeling List
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>> To: "'NW Modeling List'"
<nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>> Subject: Re: HO N&W Steam Decals
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>> Two questions then:
>> How do we show our interest for the
Society to gauge demand?
>> Rather than the Society invest in the
production, could you first
>> engage with MicroScale to offer a further
update of their decal?
>> Marty Flick
>>
>>
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Modeling List"
>> To: "NW Modeling List"
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Sunday September 20 2020 12:23:08PM
>> Subject: Re: HO N&W Steam Decals
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> The Society can do the N&W steam
decals, the Microscale set is a bit
>> undersized for the 10 inch letters.
However, we have to order a fairly
>> high number of sets to keep the pricing
reasonable, and therefore
>> demand must be there for the investment
of time.
>>
>> They can be done with correct builder?s
plates and class plates
>> (Class J plates were chromed, I believe
the streamlined K2 plates were
>> also chromed) and bronze for most of the
others, the Y3s were cast
>> iron I know for sure, class plates
bronze.
>>
>> We could also include the correct early
small cab size lettering, and
>> the aluminum color lettering for
passenger power.
>>
>> It all depends on demand.
>>
>> Best
>> Ken Miller
>>
>>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 10:41 AM, NW
Modeling List wrote:
>>>
>>> Marty,
>>>
>>> I checked the ShellSclae, K4, and
Tichy offerings but there is
>> nothing really on point; Tichy offers the
stripe set for the J, and
>> has a generic set of builders plates.
Otherwise zilch. Perhaps the
>> NWHS Modeling committee could address
this issue.
>>>
>>> Jim Brewer
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 PM NW
Modeling List wrote:
>>> Other than Microscale, are there any
choices for HO scale N&W steam
>> locomotive decals that include the
builders plates and class badges? I
>> ordered Microscale's latest revision, and
while it does finally put
>> the builders plates and class badges in
more of a bronze or brass
>> color instead of dulux gold like the
lettering, it still has a poor
>> selection of classes repesented on the
plates and badges. There are no
>> A's, and no Y's other than Y6b. Their O
scale revision includes these
>> additional classes, so it is frustrating
that the HO version still
>> does not. I've looked around but can't
find any currently in
>> production other than Microscale. I know
the Champ sets don't have the
>> plates and badges I am looking for. Are
there any options besides
>> finding an appropriately sized "A" in
another set and combining it
>> with the Microscale?
>>>
>>> Marty Flick
>>>
>>>
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>> Microscale does offer their N&W steam
set in N scale. I believe it is
>> identical to the HO, so the limited
builders plates and class badges
>> remain. If Microscale were to further
revise their HO set, the N scale
>> would probably receive the same updates.
>> Marty Flick
>>
>>
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>> Subject: Re: HO scale decals
>>
>> I agree, But I doubt if it will be done,
We seem to be in the
>> minority
>>
>> Joe Grzelak
>> On 9/20/2020 3:21 AM, NW Modeling List
wrote:
>> It would be nice to have these decals in
n-scale.
>> Jeff Wood
>>
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>> From: NW Modeling List
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>> To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
>> Subject: Re: HO N&W Steam Decals
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>> ?Up to the minute update: With the
assistance of the Society, ShellScale Decals will
be producing the steam set in 2021 in HO, O and N
Scale.?If you are familiar with our quality you
know this will be a good thing.?Richard D.
ShellShellScale Decals?In a message dated
9/20/2020 12:37:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org writes:?
>> Two questions then:?How do we show our
interest for the Society to gauge demand??Rather
than the Society invest in the production, could
you first engage with MicroScale to offer a
further update of their decal??Marty Flick
>>
>> ?
>> -----------------------------------------
>> From: "NW Modeling List"
>> To: "NW Modeling List"
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Sunday September 20 2020 12:23:08PM
>> Subject: Re: HO N&W Steam Decals
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> The Society can do the N&W steam
decals, the Microscale set is a bit undersized for
the 10 inch letters. However, we have to order a
fairly high number of sets to keep the pricing
reasonable, and therefore demand must be there for
the investment of time.
>>
>> They can be done with correct builder?s
plates and class plates (Class J plates were
chromed, I believe the streamlined K2 plates were
also chromed) and bronze for most of the others,
the Y3s were cast iron I know for sure, class
plates bronze.
>>
>> We could also include the correct early
small cab size lettering, and the aluminum color
lettering for passenger power.
>>
>> It all depends on demand.
>>
>> Best
>> Ken Miller
>>
>>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 10:41 AM, NW
Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Marty,
>>>
>>> I checked the ShellSclae, K4, and
Tichy offerings but there is nothing really on
point; Tichy offers the stripe set for the J, and
has a generic set of builders plates. Otherwise
zilch. Perhaps the NWHS Modeling committee could
address this issue.
>>>
>>> Jim Brewer
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 PM NW
Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:
>>> Other than Microscale, are there any
choices for HO scale N&W steam locomotive
decals that include the builders plates and class
badges? I ordered Microscale's latest revision,
and while it does finally put the builders plates
and class badges in more of a bronze or brass
color instead of dulux gold like the lettering, it
still has a poor selection of classes repesented
on the plates and badges. There are no A's, and no
Y's other than Y6b. Their O scale revision
includes these additional classes, so it is
frustrating that the HO version still does not.
I've looked around but can't find any currently in
production other than Microscale. I know the Champ
sets don't have the plates and badges I am looking
for. Are there any options besides finding an
appropriately sized "A" in another set and
combining it with the Microscale?
>>>
>>> Marty Flick
>>>
>>>
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Subject: Re: HO scale K2 was HO Scale decals (NW Modeling List)
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