<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Hi Dave, I commented on wire sizes in my reply to Mike. What I didn’t add there is that I would have been content with .015” or .0125” throughout. <div><br></div><div>As far as the bends go, my mandrels were literally things close at hand</div><div><br></div><div>A file for the carbody end grab</div><div><img width="305" alt="PastedGraphic-1.png" src="cid:EA22D1E1-D995-4394-A603-C56EF7E4326D"></div><div><br></div><div>A pencil for the side grabs</div><div><img width="305" alt="PastedGraphic-2.png" src="cid:6FEA0ECD-8BFD-44B2-817A-92FE23202BDB"></div><div><br></div><div>And the jewelers pliers and a tweezer handle to locate the bends that go into the car body. </div><div><img width="305" alt="PastedGraphic-3.png" src="cid:0C2BAE48-DBF8-4A0B-8491-89B00ED2BB03"></div><div><br></div><div>Jim Cochran, Ken asked me about an article back in 2020. I put it on my todo list back then. It’s still on that list. However, I did at least consolidate my notes into one document. I’ll forward that to you for feedback. It’s not in article form, but the meat is there. </div><div><br></div><div>Matt Goodman</div><div>Columbus, Ohio. <br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Nov 16, 2024, at 10:42 AM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto">Agree. These are quite helpful. I also would be interested in wire diameter. I use phosphor bronze for brake hangers, rods and piping from .008 to .020 depending. Grabs should be .008 to scale but are a bit delicate. <div><br></div><div>You get great geometry in your bends. That can be just practice, but any tips on your process or tools would be useful. I use Tamiya flat pliers and Xuron almost needle nose pliers a lot for brake work. I often use A-line for grabs and steps, so less experience with bending wire for them.<br><div><br></div><div>I have an AMB CF with the body and frame done so grabs are on the horizon. More details and/or an article would be of great interest.</div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr">Sent from Dave Bott's iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 16, 2024, at 7:09 AM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Matt,<div>Those are fantastic photos! Would you consider adding a few additional words to your Email description to make a short modeling article for the Arrow?</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Jim Cochran</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 1:11 AM NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Mike, I think you’re referring to the support in the middle of the grabs next to the platform and the top of the cupola. </div><div><br></div><div>For both of those locations, I bent wire into a (very short) “L” or “U” shape, with the short leg supporting the main grab. I also flattened the short leg to make the joint less conspicuous. I attached it with CA. </div><div><br></div><div>Photos attached. Let me know if this helps or if you have any questions. </div><div><br></div><div><div><image.png></div></div><div><br></div><div><div><image.png></div></div><div><br></div><div><div><image.png></div></div><div><br></div><div><div><image.png></div></div><br id="m_-4101579742070482583lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Matt Goodman</div><div>Columbus, Ohio</div><div><br></div>Sent from my mobile</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Nov 15, 2024, at 7:49 AM, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr">Does anyone have a suggestion on how to make the corner grabs of CF and other cabooses? </div><div dir="ltr">Many people put a lifting ring on the center of the grab but that isn't prototypical as far as I can tell.</div><div dir="ltr"><span>How did you jig it in order to solder or otherwise fasten the support to the grab iron?</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>Thank you so much,</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>Mike Shockley</span></div></div><span>________________________________________</span><br><span><a href="mailto:NW-Modeling-List@nwhs.org" target="_blank">NW-Modeling-List@nwhs.org</a></span><br><span>To change your subscription go to</span><br><span><a href="http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-modeling-list" target="_blank">http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-modeling-list</a></span><br><span>Browse the NW-Modeling-List archives at</span><br><span><a href="http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-modeling-list/" target="_blank">http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-modeling-list/</a></span><br></div></div>________________________________________<br>
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