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<p>Thanks Dave. This looks like something I would like to follow up
on! Unfortunately I was not able to access what you referenced
with the info you provided. Could you give me a little more help
finding the information?</p>
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<div dir="auto">I'm not sure if you know about this document,
but it's amazing for late steam passenger train modeling.
You can see where the head end and sleepers went and the
consists. </div>
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<div dir="auto">The copy paste is error prone, but you can get
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<div dir="auto">NORFOLK AND WESTERN RAILWAY COMPANY
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<div dir="auto">CONSIST OF ALL MnIN LINE PASSENGER TRAINS
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<div dir="auto">Revised and Reissued, March 15, l954</div>
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The Arrow as originally planned in 1945-46 was a seven car
train. That was why the order with Pullman-Standard included,
two P-1 locker or crew cars, two P2 partitioned coaches, 10,
P3 58-seat coaches, four D-1 diners (two for the Pocahontas)
and two P-4 observation lounge cars.<br>
<br>
The seven-car trains were to be set up as follows:<br>
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One P1 Coach or Locker Car with space for dining car crew and
coach seats<br>
One P2 Coach, partitioned coach for race separation to meet
Virginia law<br>
Three P3 Coaches<br>
One D1 diner<br>
One P4 Observation Lounge<br>
<br>
Unfortunately, the railroad fairly quickly learned, with the
Arrow having run since April 1946, that three coaches were
frequently too much, so it was cut back to one or two P3
coaches, depending on load and days of the week.<br>
<br>
Traffic never picked up except for holiday travel and other
rare occasions.<br>
By the early 1950s, the P1s were converted to full coaches
with a smoking section.<br>
<br>
The train did not handle checked baggage, but about early
1957, a combine was added to the consist, I assume to handle
some checked baggage.<br>
<br>
Along about the same time, it was not unusual to see a
mail-storage car in the consist, that had been late arriving
for another train.<br>
<br>
The N&W began a big effort to eliminate as much passenger
service as possible. With attempted adjustments of the
schedule with the timetable change at the end of April 1957
the RPO was placed in the Arrow west of Bluefield. I believe
it might have been with schedule changes on the Cavalier, I’ve
got a whole file on it, just not in hand at the moment.<br>
<br>
By early 1959, the round-end observation-lounge cars were
parked and by May sold off.<br>
<br>
A few years later, the Arrow was then combined with the
Cavalier, further slowing the schedule, and it was finally
allowed to die in May 1969 as part of the upgrade of the
Pocahontas.<br>
<br>
Best<br>
Ken Miller<br>
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> Does anyone know when the Arrow started adding baggage
and/or post office cars to the consists of the original 5 car
trains? Walter Davis in Youngsville, NC<br>
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