<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Dave,</div><div dir="auto">You are very much mistaken about the speed limits of the K class locos! The classes K1 and K2/K2a were "high rollers"!</div><div dir="auto">Only the class K3 had balance problems and were speed limited!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Jimmy Lisle</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="composer_signature" dir="auto"><div style="font-size:12px;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org> </div><div>Date: 1/14/25 1:33 PM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org> </div><div>Subject: Fwd: DCC CV's - Best Practices for N&W Steam </div><div><br></div></div><div><blockquote class="" type="cite"><br class=""><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="elementToProof">Steam Modelers;</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="elementToProof">It’s been a long time since I’ve seen any messages from the NW-<u class="">Modeling</u>-List leaving me to wonder if it has fallen into disuse. So, I’ll post here on the NW-<u class="">Mailing</u>-List.</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="elementToProof">I am initiating the task of programming the CV’s of a small number of N&W Steamers in classes A, J, K, S1, Y3, & Y6b and many questions are coming to mind. So, why not tap into the best data source for guidance? As you share information, please indicate the Locomotive Class.</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Beginning with some foundational matters:</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">My goal is to keep things<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">reasonably</u> realistic. For example; The Y classes were not speed-demons, and the K classes had operational speed limits due to counterbalance issues.</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="elementToProof">When dealing with acceleration and deceleration rates – I’m rather torn about actually putting hard values in CV’s because I would say they should be dependent on external conditions such as train power and weight, in addition to terrain.</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="elementToProof">Have you pursued speed limitations? Initial research suggested these top speeds for Road Power: </div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> Class A – 70 mph</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> Class J – 110 mph</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> Class K – 35 mph</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> Class Y – 50 mph</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">What are you using for:</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> CV 02 – Start Voltage</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> CV 03 – Acceleration Rate</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> CV 04 - Deceleration Rate</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> CV 05 – High Voltage (Speed Limiting)</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> CV 06 – Mid Voltage</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> CV 65 – Kick Start</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Speed Curves:</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> Which are you using?</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> 3-point curve? (Start, Mid, High of a preloaded curve)</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> CV 25 - Speed Table Selection? Which one?</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> 14 step or 28 step configured?</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> What do you have for CV 67 to CV 94?</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> Are you using a Throttle Control Mode? If so, which one?</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Speed Matching & Consisting:</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> If it is Speed Matched, to what locomotive?</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0.5in; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">What values do you use for:</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> CV 66 – Forward Trim</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> CV 95 – Reverse Trim</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0.5in; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">What values do you use for consisting with other Locomotives:</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> CV 21 – Consist Functions Fn1 to Fn8</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> CV 22 – Consist Functions Fn0 & Fn9 to Fn12</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> CV 23 – Consist Acceleration Rate</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> CV 24 - Consist Deceleration Rate</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Thank you,</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; 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