<html><body><br>The ScaleTrains/FoxValley/MTH streamlined cars are accurate for the Arrow.<div><br></div><div>There have been a few Walthers cars, mainly Pennsylvania, that are correct for N&W, like the P-S 10-6 sleeper and B60b/BEk baggage cars. Con-Cor also did a series of short PRR cars that are correct, or at least close enough, to ex-PRR cars N&W bought in the 30s.</div><div><br></div><div>Not unlike cabooses, given the unique nature of most railroads' passenger cars, modelers of most railroads have to make do with stand-ins. Having the Arrow cars and a few ex-PRR cars is actually a blessing for N&W modelers. Southern, ACL, MKT, Northern Pacific, Wabash, and a host of others, good luck. </div><div><br></div><div>Marty Flick<br><div class="reply-new-signature"></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: "NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List" <nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org><br>To: "NW Modeling List"<br>Cc: "NW Modeling List"<br>Sent: Tuesday July 22 2025 11:21:45AM<br>Subject: Re: New Scale Trains Heavyweights<br><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Well, once again, N&W
modelers are left with "good enough" models. Generally
manufacturers do Pennsy cars and slap on N&W, B&O and any
other road name they think they can sell. Shades of the famous
Athearn B&O PA models starting in the late 1950s! It's a shame
we can't get actual N&W cars produced.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">What's really a shame is the
producer is Scale Trains! They pride themselves on "rivet counter
accurate" models then produce the same type of cars we've had since
the 1950s. One model-30 roads! On size fits all!</div>
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<div dir="ltr">The MTH Powhatan Arrow trains
cars they are now producing are the only plastic cars I know that
are true N&W prototypes. I have not seen them by either
company so I can't say much but they look pretty good to me. I
won't get in to colors as that's a losing battle for
discussion.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Division Point, Roanoke Rails
and Railworks have produced accurate N&W cars in brass but the
RR ones are very hard to find as well as the RW cars. Prices are
out of most of our reach too especially the DP models. The DP
models are a disgrace, to me, with their paint inaccuracies. How
can one produce such fine, exacting models and blow it when it
comes to the paint job and STILL charge upwards of $800?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Anyway, as bad as these new
Scale Trains/Fox Valley cars are they are very nice looking models
and since we have no other option will have to suffice.</div>
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<div>On Tuesday, July 22, 2025 at 06:10:53 AM CDT, NW Modeling List
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<div dir="ltr">As to the 12-1, it is deced for the Cutty Hunk and
appears to be a quite good representation with only 1 window one
one side incorrect.
<div>Jim</div>
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<div>How about the 12-1, I'm curious.
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<p>Thanks Jim. Another set of cars I won't purchase, just
like the Bachman smooth sides just issued, they are not worth the
money, especially these days.<br></p>
<div>On 7/19/2025 7:43 PM, NW Modeling List wrote:<br></div>
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<div>The diner is decorated for N&W class DE #1024. On
one side the window arrangement is close, but no cigar while the
other side is completely wrong. Also, the AC ducting is
wrong.</div>
<div>The coach is decorated for an N&W class Pg. Jim
Nichols did a very nice presentation on modeling this class of cars
at last year's convention. the number of windows is correct,
but the lavatory windows and doors are wrong. also the lower
panels and riveting are incorrect.</div>
<div>The baggage is decorated for an N&W class BEg. In
this case the model has two identical doors spaced nearer the ends
of the car, whereas the BEg had a single door and a double door
spaced nearer the car center.</div>
<div>Whether these cars are "close enough" to be used as stand-ins
is of course in the eye of the beholder,</div>
<div>Jim Cochran .</div>
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<p>Has anyone looked at the newly announced heavyweights to
determine if the Norfolk and Western actually had any of them or if
they are just painted to look like real Norfolk and Western rolling
stock? All I can tell is at least the coach is not the
popular paired window coach that was never owned by my favorite
railroad. <br></p>
<p>Walter Davis in Youngsville, NC</p>
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