<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Roger,<div>I think the Scale Trains models are the same as the former MTH passenger car set. </div><div>I may be wrong, but those were terrific. </div><div>Bill D</div><div>N&W Steam Only</div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jul 22, 2025, at 11:21 AM, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="ydp4f141835yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Well, once again, N&W modelers are left with "good enough" models. Generally manufacturers do Pennsy cars and slap on N&W, B&O and any other road name they think they can sell. Shades of the famous Athearn B&O PA models starting in the late 1950s! It's a shame we can't get actual N&W cars produced.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">What's really a shame is the producer is Scale Trains! They pride themselves on "rivet counter accurate" models then produce the same type of cars we've had since the 1950s. One model-30 roads! On size fits all!</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The MTH Powhatan Arrow trains cars they are now producing are the only plastic cars I know that are true N&W prototypes. I have not seen them by either company so I can't say much but they look pretty good to me. I won't get in to colors as that's a losing battle for discussion.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Division Point, Roanoke Rails and Railworks have produced accurate N&W cars in brass but the RR ones are very hard to find as well as the RW cars. Prices are out of most of our reach too especially the DP models. The DP models are a disgrace, to me, with their paint inaccuracies. How can one produce such fine, exacting models and blow it when it comes to the paint job and STILL charge upwards of $800?</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Anyway, as bad as these new Scale Trains/Fox Valley cars are they are very nice looking models and since we have no other option will have to suffice.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">My 2¢.</div><div><br></div><div class="ydp4f141835signature">Roger Huber<br>Deer Creek Locomotive Works</div></div>
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<div><div id="ydpeeb23a87yiv3122899709"><div dir="ltr">As to the 12-1, it is deced for the Cutty Hunk and appears to be a quite good representation with only 1 window one one side incorrect.<div>Jim</div></div><br><div class="ydpeeb23a87yiv3122899709gmail_quote ydpeeb23a87yiv3122899709gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="ydpeeb23a87yiv3122899709gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 9:49 AM NW Modeling List <<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydpeeb23a87yiv3122899709gmail_quote"><div>How about the 12-1, I'm curious. <div><br></div><div>David</div></div><br><div class="ydpeeb23a87yiv3122899709gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydpeeb23a87yiv3122899709gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 20, 2025, 7:23 AM NW Modeling List <<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydpeeb23a87yiv3122899709gmail_quote">
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<p>Thanks Jim. Another set of cars I won't purchase, just like the
Bachman smooth sides just issued, they are not worth the money,
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<div>The diner is decorated for N&W class DE #1024. On one
side the window arrangement is close, but no cigar while the
other side is completely wrong. Also, the AC ducting is
wrong.</div>
<div>The coach is decorated for an N&W class Pg. Jim
Nichols did a very nice presentation on modeling this class of
cars at last year's convention. the number of windows is
correct, but the lavatory windows and doors are wrong. also
the lower panels and riveting are incorrect.</div>
<div>The baggage is decorated for an N&W class BEg. In this
case the model has two identical doors spaced nearer the ends
of the car, whereas the BEg had a single door and a double
door spaced nearer the car center.</div>
<div>Whether these cars are "close enough" to be used as
stand-ins is of course in the eye of the beholder,</div>
<div>Jim Cochran .</div>
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<p>Has anyone looked at the newly announced heavyweights to
determine if the Norfolk and Western actually had any of
them or if they are just painted to look like real Norfolk
and Western rolling stock? All I can tell is at least the
coach is not the popular paired window coach that was
never owned by my favorite railroad. <br>
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