<div dir="ltr">This will be a bad news/good news message. I currently use the photo and drawing archives of three different RRHS's: NWHS, COHS, and NYCSHS. The technique for extracting stuff from all three is just a little bit different, but none are very difficult. If I can do it, anybody can. The trick is to leisurely (not when you're fighting an article deadline) finger your way through it. Starting with the facts that they all use different indexing/nomenclature systems. But once you learn it, and remember which one you're in, the efforts are well worth it. <div><br></div><div>And in case anyone asks, the reason the systems are different is that they were set up by different programming types in Roanoke, Clifton Forge, and Cleveland, and the guys who set them up had to pretty much write their own programs, as at that time there was nothing off-the-shelf that was suitable, and there was more diversity in some of the more popular programs than now. If memory serves, the first toe in the water of computers for COHS was done on a TRS-80 (I probably screwed up the number)that may have been steam driven (LOL)</div><div><br></div><div>Frank Bongiovanni</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 1:42 PM NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:16px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">Thank you again, Ken! I couldn't image that the archives would not have a wealth of information. I merely used the wrong search terms. </div><div><br></div>
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On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 11:17:33 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">Here is a search reference to some coaling facilities, both N&W and VGN in the Archives<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=675" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=675</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=coal+wharf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=coal+wharf</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=14" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=14</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=Norfolk+type" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=Norfolk+type</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Searching the archives can be a bit touchy, and not always what you expect to find with your search terms. These probably are not every possibility, but may help narrow it down.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">There are some excellent drawings available in the Archives on these things.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Just so you know, I am not including a coal tipple in the search, as a tipple refers typically to a coal company facility for loading hoppers, not locomotives.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">But if you search for it, you can find some interesting facilities there as well.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=566" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=566</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Best<br clear="none">Ken Miller<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> On Sep 8, 2025, at 11:00 AM, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Thank you Marty. I will look for those books. The Archives has limited information....not as detailed as I would like. <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 10:55:27 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> In addition to searching the NWHS online Archives, I would recommend two books, both written by Thomas Dixon and published by TLC:<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> "Steam Locomotive Coaling Stations and Diesel Locomotive Fueling Facilities"<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> "Steam and Diesel Locomotive Terminals and Service Facilities"<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Both break down facilities by type (wood coaling stations, concrete stations, etc...), and feature plenty of photographs and drawings, including N&W prototypes. <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Marty Flick<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> -----------------------------------------<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> From: "NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List" <br clear="none">> To: "<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>"<br clear="none">> Cc: "NW Modeling List"<br clear="none">> Sent: Friday September 5 2025 6:45:40AM<br clear="none">> Subject: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> I am currently building a Gloor Craft (1980's vintage) N scale coaling tower. As this is not N&W specific, I assume I cannot enter the modeling contest at a convention. That said, all the photos I have seen all appear radically different; therefore, if there is a book or resource of all of the N&W/Southern towers/tipples, perhaps the Gloor Craft model might be a close approximation of one.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Assuming not, I would like to model a tower of a N&W or Southern prototype tipple/tower. Digging around the archives, I found little that could help me. I obtained an old Model Railroader booklet on coal, however once again with the exception of a few photos, not much use.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Could you gentlemen point me in the right direction? As this is in N scale, I am hoping I can find something not too detailed (but detailed enough). Am I on a fool's errand?<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Thank you in advance. 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