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This will be a bad news/good news message. I currently use the photo and<br>
drawing archives of three different RRHS's: NWHS, COHS, and NYCSHS. The<br>
technique for extracting stuff from all three is just a little bit<br>
different, but none are very difficult. If I can do it, anybody can. The<br>
trick is to leisurely (not when you're fighting an article deadline) finger<br>
your way through it. Starting with the facts that they all use different<br>
indexing/nomenclature systems. But once you learn it, and remember which<br>
one you're in, the efforts are well worth it.<br>
<br>
And in case anyone asks, the reason the systems are different is that they<br>
were set up by different programming types in Roanoke, Clifton Forge, and<br>
Cleveland, and the guys who set them up had to pretty much write their own<br>
programs, as at that time there was nothing off-the-shelf that was<br>
suitable, and there was more diversity in some of the more popular programs<br>
than now. If memory serves, the first toe in the water of computers for<br>
COHS was done on a TRS-80 (I probably screwed up the number)that may have<br>
been steam driven (LOL)<br>
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Frank Bongiovanni<br>
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On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 1:42?PM NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <<br>
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> Thank you again, Ken! I couldn't image that the archives would not have a<br>
> wealth of information. I merely used the wrong search terms.<br>
><br>
> On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 11:17:33 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <<br>
> <a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Here is a search reference to some coaling facilities, both N&W and VGN in<br>
> the Archives<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=675" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=675</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=coal+wharf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=coal+wharf</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=14" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=14</a><br>
><br>
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> <a href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=Norfolk+type" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=Norfolk+type</a><br>
><br>
> Searching the archives can be a bit touchy, and not always what you expect<br>
> to find with your search terms. These probably are not every possibility,<br>
> but may help narrow it down.<br>
><br>
> There are some excellent drawings available in the Archives on these<br>
> things.<br>
><br>
> Just so you know, I am not including a coal tipple in the search, as a<br>
> tipple refers typically to a coal company facility for loading hoppers, not<br>
> locomotives.<br>
><br>
> But if you search for it, you can find some interesting facilities there<br>
> as well.<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=566" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=566</a><br>
><br>
> Best<br>
> Ken Miller<br>
><br>
> > On Sep 8, 2025, at 11:00 AM, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <<br>
> <a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Thank you Marty. I will look for those books. The Archives has limited<br>
> information....not as detailed as I would like.<br>
> ><br>
> > On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 10:55:27 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <<br>
> <a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > In addition to searching the NWHS online Archives, I would recommend two<br>
> books, both written by Thomas Dixon and published by TLC:<br>
> ><br>
> > "Steam Locomotive Coaling Stations and Diesel Locomotive Fueling<br>
> Facilities"<br>
> ><br>
> > "Steam and Diesel Locomotive Terminals and Service Facilities"<br>
> ><br>
> > Both break down facilities by type (wood coaling stations, concrete<br>
> stations, etc...), and feature plenty of photographs and drawings,<br>
> including N&W prototypes.<br>
> ><br>
> > Marty Flick<br>
> ><br>
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> ><br>
> > From: "NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List"<br>
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> > Cc: "NW Modeling List"<br>
> > Sent: Friday September 5 2025 6:45:40AM<br>
> > Subject: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower<br>
> ><br>
> > I am currently building a Gloor Craft (1980's vintage) N scale coaling<br>
> tower. As this is not N&W specific, I assume I cannot enter the modeling<br>
> contest at a convention. That said, all the photos I have seen all appear<br>
> radically different; therefore, if there is a book or resource of all of<br>
> the N&W/Southern towers/tipples, perhaps the Gloor Craft model might be a<br>
> close approximation of one.<br>
> ><br>
> > Assuming not, I would like to model a tower of a N&W or Southern<br>
> prototype tipple/tower. Digging around the archives, I found little that<br>
> could help me. I obtained an old Model Railroader booklet on coal, however<br>
> once again with the exception of a few photos, not much use.<br>
> ><br>
> > Could you gentlemen point me in the right direction? As this is in N<br>
> scale, I am hoping I can find something not too detailed (but detailed<br>
> enough). Am I on a fool's errand?<br>
> ><br>
> > Thank you in advance. Steve Clark #4269<br>
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Hi Bill,<br>
Agree, I am facing a formidable challenge for sure. The latest (April-June) of?The Arrow has nice photos/drawings of the station in Prichard. The concrete work, while still a challenge, would be doable in wood. I am pretty handy with a scroll saw. The metal work would be a bear.<br>
That same Arrow had a rendering of a company house. I have built small wooden kit structures and, while not a pro, have learned enough on how to build those reasonable well.<br>
All of that said, I don't back down from challenges, so once I complete the Gloor Craft tipple, I will probably tackle a coaling station.? I will look up those references you provided.<br>
Thanks for replying back to me.? Steve<br>
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On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 03:54:51 PM EDT, NW Modeling List <<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote: <br>
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Coaling Stations<br>
Steve,<br>
I wish I could help you with drawings, but I don't have any. You may have to pick a prototype version and scale something?from photos that fits your scale and layout.?<br>
Putting aside the big facilities?at Norfolk, Roanoke, Bluefield and Williamson, there were a number?of concrete structures?between those endpoints: Vicker/Walton, Farm, and Iaeger. They were of different sizes and complexity, with the one at Auville Yard, Iaeger, being the least complex. Having said that, the basic structures were each straightforward, but the steel "rigging" of each was complex, and would be a challenge even in HO scale.<br>
There was a smaller facility at Shenandoah, VA, but the "rigging" was very complex.<br>
The volume "The N&W As I Knew It", published by the Society, has photos of Vicker (page 98) and Shenandoah?(page 136). I don't have photos of Auville or Farm at hand, but they are around.<br>
Hope this helps,Bill McClure<br>
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David Baker has graciously invited us all to a tour of his fabulous layout<br>
via Zoom.? I will set up a Zoom session for Sunday evening, September 21st<br>
at 8:00 p.m. to facilitate this event and send it out a little closer to<br>
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In addition to searching the NWHS online Archives, I would recommend<br>
two books, both written by Thomas Dixon and published by TLC:<br>
"Steam Locomotive Coaling Stations and Diesel Locomotive Fueling<br>
Facilities"<br>
"Steam and Diesel Locomotive Terminals and Service Facilities"<br>
Both break down facilities by type (wood coaling stations, concrete<br>
stations, etc...), and feature plenty of photographs and drawings,<br>
including N&W prototypes. <br>
Marty Flick<br>
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To: "<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>"<br>
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Sent: Friday September 5 2025 6:45:40AM<br>
Subject: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower<br>
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? I am currently building a Gloor Craft (1980's vintage) N scale<br>
coaling tower. As this is not N&W specific, I assume I cannot enter<br>
the modeling contest at a convention. That said, all the photos I have<br>
seen all appear radically different; therefore, if there is a book or<br>
resource of all of the N&W/Southern towers/tipples, perhaps the Gloor<br>
Craft model might be a close approximation of one. <br>
?Assuming not, I would like to model a tower of a N&W or Southern<br>
prototype tipple/tower. Digging around the archives, I found little<br>
that could help me. I obtained an old Model Railroader booklet on<br>
coal, however once again with the exception of a few photos, not much<br>
use. <br>
?Could you gentlemen point me in the right direction? As this is in N<br>
scale, I am hoping I can find something not too detailed (but detailed<br>
enough). Am I on a fool's errand? <br>
?Thank you in advance. Steve Clark #4269<br>
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? ? On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 09:42:57 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:? ?<br>
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David Baker has graciously invited us all to a tour of hisfabulous layout via Zoom.? I will set upa Zoom session for Sunday evening, September 21st at 8:00 p.m. to facilitatethis event and send it out a little closer to time? Please plan to attend as I think you willenjoy seeing what David has done and his methods and techniques for doing somereally beautiful work.<br>
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?Thank you Marty. I will look for those books. The Archives has limited information....not as detailed as I would like.?<br>
? ? On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 10:55:27 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:? ?<br>
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?In addition to searching the NWHS online Archives, I would recommend two books, both written by Thomas Dixon and published by TLC:<br>
"Steam Locomotive Coaling Stations and Diesel Locomotive Fueling Facilities"<br>
"Steam and Diesel Locomotive Terminals and Service Facilities"<br>
Both break down facilities by type (wood coaling stations, concrete stations, etc...), and feature plenty of photographs and drawings, including N&W prototypes.??<br>
Marty Flick<br>
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I am currently building a GloorCraft (1980's vintage) N scale coaling tower.? As this is notN&W specific, I assume I cannot enter the modeling contest at aconvention. That said, all the photos I have seen all appearradically different; therefore, if there is a book or resource ofall of the N&W/Southern towers/tipples, perhaps the Gloor Craftmodel might be a close approximation of one.<br>
Assuming not, I would like tomodel a tower of a N&W or Southern prototypetipple/tower.? Digging around the archives, I found littlethat could help me. I obtained an old Model Railroader booklet oncoal, however once again with the exception of a few photos, notmuch use.<br>
Could you gentlemen point me inthe right direction? As this is in N scale, I am hoping I can findsomething not too detailed (but detailed enough). Am I on a fool'serrand?<br>
Thank you in advance.?Steve Clark #4269________________________________________<br>
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Here is a search reference to some coaling facilities, both N&W and VGN in the Archives<br>
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<a href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=675" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=675</a><br>
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<a href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=coal+wharf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=coal+wharf</a><br>
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<a href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=14" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=14</a><br>
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<a href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=Norfolk+type" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=Norfolk+type</a><br>
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Searching the archives can be a bit touchy, and not always what you expect to find with your search terms. These probably are not every possibility, but may help narrow it down.<br>
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There are some excellent drawings available in the Archives on these things.<br>
<br>
Just so you know, I am not including a coal tipple in the search, as a tipple refers typically to a coal company facility for loading hoppers, not locomotives.<br>
<br>
But if you search for it, you can find some interesting facilities there as well.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=566" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=566</a><br>
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Ken Miller<br>
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> On Sep 8, 2025, at 11:00 AM, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Thank you Marty. I will look for those books. The Archives has limited information....not as detailed as I would like. <br>
> <br>
> On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 10:55:27 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> In addition to searching the NWHS online Archives, I would recommend two books, both written by Thomas Dixon and published by TLC:<br>
> <br>
> "Steam Locomotive Coaling Stations and Diesel Locomotive Fueling Facilities"<br>
> <br>
> "Steam and Diesel Locomotive Terminals and Service Facilities"<br>
> <br>
> Both break down facilities by type (wood coaling stations, concrete stations, etc...), and feature plenty of photographs and drawings, including N&W prototypes.? <br>
> <br>
> Marty Flick<br>
> <br>
> -----------------------------------------<br>
> <br>
> From: "NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List" <br>
> To: "<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>"<br>
> Cc: "NW Modeling List"<br>
> Sent: Friday September 5 2025 6:45:40AM<br>
> Subject: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower<br>
> <br>
> I am currently building a Gloor Craft (1980's vintage) N scale coaling tower.? As this is not N&W specific, I assume I cannot enter the modeling contest at a convention. That said, all the photos I have seen all appear radically different; therefore, if there is a book or resource of all of the N&W/Southern towers/tipples, perhaps the Gloor Craft model might be a close approximation of one.<br>
> <br>
> Assuming not, I would like to model a tower of a N&W or Southern prototype tipple/tower.? Digging around the archives, I found little that could help me. I obtained an old Model Railroader booklet on coal, however once again with the exception of a few photos, not much use.<br>
> <br>
> Could you gentlemen point me in the right direction? As this is in N scale, I am hoping I can find something not too detailed (but detailed enough). Am I on a fool's errand?<br>
> <br>
> Thank you in advance.? Steve Clark #4269<br>
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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2025 16:44:12 +0000 (UTC)<br>
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Subject: Re: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower<br>
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?Thank you again, Ken! I couldn't image that the archives would not have a wealth of information. I merely used the wrong search terms.?<br>
? ? On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 11:17:33 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:? ?<br>
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?Here is a search reference to some coaling facilities, both N&W and VGN in the Archives<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=675" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=675</a><br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=coal+wharf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=coal+wharf</a><br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=14" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=14</a><br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=Norfolk+type" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=Norfolk+type</a><br>
<br>
Searching the archives can be a bit touchy, and not always what you expect to find with your search terms. These probably are not every possibility, but may help narrow it down.<br>
<br>
There are some excellent drawings available in the Archives on these things.<br>
<br>
Just so you know, I am not including a coal tipple in the search, as a tipple refers typically to a coal company facility for loading hoppers, not locomotives.<br>
<br>
But if you search for it, you can find some interesting facilities there as well.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=566" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=566</a><br>
<br>
Best<br>
Ken Miller<br>
<br>
> On Sep 8, 2025, at 11:00 AM, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Thank you Marty. I will look for those books. The Archives has limited information....not as detailed as I would like. <br>
> <br>
> On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 10:55:27 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> In addition to searching the NWHS online Archives, I would recommend two books, both written by Thomas Dixon and published by TLC:<br>
> <br>
> "Steam Locomotive Coaling Stations and Diesel Locomotive Fueling Facilities"<br>
> <br>
> "Steam and Diesel Locomotive Terminals and Service Facilities"<br>
> <br>
> Both break down facilities by type (wood coaling stations, concrete stations, etc...), and feature plenty of photographs and drawings, including N&W prototypes.? <br>
> <br>
> Marty Flick<br>
> <br>
> -----------------------------------------<br>
> <br>
> From: "NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List" <br>
> To: "<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org</a>"<br>
> Cc: "NW Modeling List"<br>
> Sent: Friday September 5 2025 6:45:40AM<br>
> Subject: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower<br>
> <br>
> I am currently building a Gloor Craft (1980's vintage) N scale coaling tower.? As this is not N&W specific, I assume I cannot enter the modeling contest at a convention. That said, all the photos I have seen all appear radically different; therefore, if there is a book or resource of all of the N&W/Southern towers/tipples, perhaps the Gloor Craft model might be a close approximation of one.<br>
> <br>
> Assuming not, I would like to model a tower of a N&W or Southern prototype tipple/tower.? Digging around the archives, I found little that could help me. I obtained an old Model Railroader booklet on coal, however once again with the exception of a few photos, not much use.<br>
> <br>
> Could you gentlemen point me in the right direction? As this is in N scale, I am hoping I can find something not too detailed (but detailed enough). Am I on a fool's errand?<br>
> <br>
> Thank you in advance.? Steve Clark #4269<br>
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