[StBernard] We learn the "truth" behind Snopes.com

[Westley Annis]

Jim,

I mentioned their religion because unlike any other religious denomination
in the United States, there is none that is more linked to a political party
(in this case Democrat) or a particular politcal ideology (liberal) than
jewish people - and that's a statistical fact.

Just the other day Jack Grimm with Multi-Quest were talking about why do
Jews always (with some rare exceptions) support the Democratic candidate
when it seems all black caucuses within the DNC kick them in the but for it
afterwards.  He told me what was explained to him by a jewish colleague, but
said my observation was correct.  I think it important to note that as a
basis for my conclusions about the Mikkelsons.  

After all, if I was to just blurt out they're liberals and that they're
findings on their website could be liberally motiviated, then the reader
would ask me what's the basis for my saying that.  Note that I did criticise
them or their religion for being Jewish.  In this particular case, my
pointing out their (not only) religion, but cultural-ethnic background
provides a reference as to "why" they are liberal and thus why one should
question their findings.

Jim, trust me, if this were in a court of law, this (of their religion)
issue would be raised in cross examination.  So, why should we not examine
and question everything else in life the same way?  I believe knowing as
much as you can about a person or organization can only help you figure out
why he/they think the way they do.

I also can't help but feel if they were of any other religion than Jewish,
then you or others might not be so sensitve about it....God forbid we talk
about Jews after what the Nazi's did to them, right?

For too long now we overlook or excuse things (even little things) about a
person or group out of courtesy and politeness we tell ourselves, "oh we
shouldn't let that make a difference in what we think of him/them,"  but I
say it should - because then we are guilty of "political correction," which
I believe is one of the roots for the fix this nation is in today.

I agree with Dr. James Dobson (Focus on the Family), we need to stop being
polite in regards to overlooking little things about others who are working
to defeat what we believe to be our tradtional way of life in this country.
All those little things add up over years - and now look at the mess we're
in.  So, I don't have a problem at all referencing the Mikkelson's religion.
It might seem like one of the "little things" to overlook, but I think it
speaks volumes for how they think, what they believe and what they do that
could mislead us.

John Scurich



 

-----Original Message-----
John,

I was reading along with interest until you got to the point of "has been
learned the Mikkelson's are jewish..."

I don't think it was necessary for you to include that.  Perhaps their
politics is relevant but I don't think including their religion was
necessary.

Just my two cents worth.  This has been an ugly year in politics and
sometimes I just don't think we need to include their religion.

Jim



	
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	For the past few years www.snopes.com has postioned itself, or
others have
	labeled it, as the "tell all final word" on any comment, claim and
	email.
	But for several years people tried to find out who exactly was
behind
	snopes.com.  Only recently
	 did Wikipedia get to the bottom of it - kinda
	makes you wonder what they were hiding.  Well, finally we know.  It
is run
	by a husband and wife team - that's right, no big office of
investigators
	and researchers, no team of lawyers.  It's just a mom-and-pop
operation
	that
	began as a hobby.
	 
	David and Barbara Mikkelson in the San Fernando Valley of California
started
	the website about 13 years ago - and they have no formal background
or
	experience in investigative research.  After a few years it gained
	popularity believing it to be unbiased and neutral, but over the
past couple
	of years people started asking questions who was behind it and did
they have
	a selfish motivation?  The reason for the questions - or skepticims
- is a
	result of snopes.com claiming to have the bottom line facts to
certain
	questions or issue when in fact they have been proven wrong.  Also,
there
	were criticisms the Mikkelsons were not
	 really investigating and getting to
	the "true" bottom of various issues.  I can personally vouch for
that
	complaint.
	 
	A few months ago, when my State Farm agent Bud Gregg in Mandeville
hoisted a
	political sign referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across
the
	internet, "supposedly" the Mikkelson's claim to have researched
	this issue
	before posting their findings on snopes.com.  In their statement
they
	claimed the corporate office of State Farm pressured Gregg into
taking down
	the sign, when in fact nothing of the sort "ever" took place.
	 
	I personally contacted David Mikkelson (and he replied back to me)
thinking
	he would want to get to the bottomof this and I gave him Bud Gregg's
	contact
	phone numbers - and Bud was going to give him phone numbers to the
big
	exec's at State Farm in Illinois who would have been willing to
speak with
	him about it.  He never called Bud.  In fact, I learned from
	 Bud Gregg no
	one from snopes.com ever contacted anyone with State Farm.  Yet,
snopes.com
	issued a statement as the "final factual word" on the issue as if
	they did
	all their homework and got to the bottom of things - not!
	 
	Then it has been learned the Mikkelson's are jewish - very
Democratic
	(party) and extremely liberal.  As we all now know from this
presidential
	election, liberals have a purpose agenda to discredit anything that
appears
	to be conservative.  There has been much criticism lately over the
internet
	with people pointing out the Mikkelson's liberalism revealing itself
in
	their website findings.  Gee, what a shock?
	 
	So, I say this now to everyone who goes to www.snopes.com to get
what they
	think to be the bottom line facts..."proceed with caution."  Take
	what it
	says at face value and nothing more.  Use it only to lead you to
their
	references where you can link to and read the sources for
	 yourself.  Plus,
	you can always google a subject and do the research yourself.  It
now seems
	apparent that's all the Mikkelson's do.  After all, I can personally
	vouch
	from my own experience for their "not" fully looking into things.
	
	 
	John Scurich