NW Class J 1 - war babies

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It was made most recently by Overland, sometime in the last five years.  I 
have the factory painted 610 in my display case (I'm between layouts) right 
now. A real beauty.

Steve Seward

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> Actually the J1 was made by Sunset. I have one of the 35 that were made.

> I worked with Mort Mann on it.

>

> Regards,

>

> Kurt S. Kramke MMR

>

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> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 12:19 PM

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> Subject: NW Class J 1 - war babies

>

> Ken,

>

> It is my pleasure!

>

> I would like to see this article! I will be waiting for it!

>

> The front view of J1 606 is printed in the "Memories of N&W Power"by

> Paul Carleton  and the 3/4 view of 605  is presented in Jeffries' N&W

> Giant of Steam and again in Ron Rosemberg's N&W Steam  (The Last 25

> Years), wich includes a diagram of the J1.

>

> To my knowledge J1 HO model was made by Overland, but I never had one in

>

> my hands. Its a good choice for a Broadway Limited future relese!

>

> bst rgds,

>

> Luiz Affonso

> lasarai at attglobal.net

>

> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org wrote:

>

> > Many thanks Luiz! It is appreciated.

> >

> > Regarding other photos of the unstreamlined Class J, or J1. In service

>

> > shots are rare to say the least, much less a right hand side view. To

> > my knowledge of the company photographic files, which is fairly

> > extensive, there were three views shot by the company photographer,

> > builder portraits; the two in the book, one left hand side view, a 3/4

>

> > view at East End Shops, and a front end view (not published in the

> > book) negative numbers 30898, 30899, 30900, all 8x10 negatives, made

> > January 25, 1944.  The other view (No. 502506, a 4x5 negative) on

> > September 17, 1944 of the double header with the K2 in the book was

> > unknown. I found the negative while going through the files probably

> > about 1977, prior to my finding it, the negative had never been

> printed.

> >

> > It was probably an accident to have even been shot. In my interviews

> > with the company photographers, none could remember specific

> > instructions about not shooting the locomotives, but there was

> > commentary that since they did not appear like the Class Js, and the

> > photographers were shooting basically for advertising purposes, it is

> > a good chance they did not snap the shutter when one came into sight,

> > but waited until the arrival of another train with a streamlined

> > locomotive. With as many passenger  trains running as there were then,

>

> > another train would not be long in arriving, and the chances of a

> > streamliner were pretty good.

> >

> > There is an article in the N&W company magazine August 1944, pages

> > 374-375, entitled "An afternoon at Portsmouth (Ohio) Passenger

> > Station" a couple of other photos by George Perkinson, snapshots with

> > a view of a the 608 and possibly the 606, at Portsmouth. It is

> > diffiicult to make out whether it is a 6 or 8 in the halftone. These

> > photos are clearly snapshot-type photos, made by the local

> > correspondent. It is quite possible that prints were just provided to

> > the magazine department and discarded after article was published and

> > the negatives were never actually made a part of the company files, or

>

> > were purged when the files were cleaned out in the 1960s or so. And

> > yes, that did happen.

> >

> > If anyone wants, I'll be glad to scan and provide these pages to Ron

> > for posting on the web.

> >

> > I do know of a couple of reels of 16mm company film that are out takes

>

> > from the 1944 film "Modern Coal Burning Steam Locomotives" that

> > include films of a couple of J1's in service. If you have seen the

> > film, you know there is not a sign of a J1 in the finished film, even

> > though they were running around all over at this time. I am working on

>

> > the film to bring it to market in the future. They are only glimpses

> > of the J1s, one on a train, one at Shaffers Crossing but how many have

>

> > you seen in live and in color?

> >

> > Best

> >

> > Ken Miller

> >

> > On Aug 8, 2005, at 6:18 PM, nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org wrote:

> >

> >> Dear Kenneth Miller,

> >>

> >> You wrote a GREAT book! I recomend it to any N&W fan!

> >>

> >> Please excuse me for disturbe you, but your book presents one of the

> >> few pictures of the un-streamlined pictures in actual service. Are

> >> there any other pictures? Are them available, or printes in any othe

> >> book?

> >>

> >> tks,

> >>

> >> Luiz Affonso Saraiva

> >> a N&W fan from Brazil

> >

>

>

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