NW Class J 1 - war babies

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Sunset released the J1 in 83.  Overland released their version in 98 along 
with five other versions of the J.

Any one want sunset pics email off list leconte at frontiernet.net

Bob Riffe
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> Actually the J1 was made by Sunset. I have one of the 35 that were made.

> I worked with Mort Mann on it.

>

> Regards,

>

> Kurt S. Kramke MMR

>

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> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 12:19 PM

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> Subject: NW Class J 1 - war babies

>

> Ken,

>

> It is my pleasure!

>

> I would like to see this article! I will be waiting for it!

>

> The front view of J1 606 is printed in the "Memories of N&W Power"by

> Paul Carleton  and the 3/4 view of 605  is presented in Jeffries' N&W

> Giant of Steam and again in Ron Rosemberg's N&W Steam  (The Last 25

> Years), wich includes a diagram of the J1.

>

> To my knowledge J1 HO model was made by Overland, but I never had one in

>

> my hands. Its a good choice for a Broadway Limited future relese!

>

> bst rgds,

>

> Luiz Affonso

> lasarai at attglobal.net

>

> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org wrote:

>

> > Many thanks Luiz! It is appreciated.

> >

> > Regarding other photos of the unstreamlined Class J, or J1. In service

>

> > shots are rare to say the least, much less a right hand side view. To

> > my knowledge of the company photographic files, which is fairly

> > extensive, there were three views shot by the company photographer,

> > builder portraits; the two in the book, one left hand side view, a 3/4

>

> > view at East End Shops, and a front end view (not published in the

> > book) negative numbers 30898, 30899, 30900, all 8x10 negatives, made

> > January 25, 1944.  The other view (No. 502506, a 4x5 negative) on

> > September 17, 1944 of the double header with the K2 in the book was

> > unknown. I found the negative while going through the files probably

> > about 1977, prior to my finding it, the negative had never been

> printed.

> >

> > It was probably an accident to have even been shot. In my interviews

> > with the company photographers, none could remember specific

> > instructions about not shooting the locomotives, but there was

> > commentary that since they did not appear like the Class Js, and the

> > photographers were shooting basically for advertising purposes, it is

> > a good chance they did not snap the shutter when one came into sight,

> > but waited until the arrival of another train with a streamlined

> > locomotive. With as many passenger  trains running as there were then,

>

> > another train would not be long in arriving, and the chances of a

> > streamliner were pretty good.

> >

> > There is an article in the N&W company magazine August 1944, pages

> > 374-375, entitled "An afternoon at Portsmouth (Ohio) Passenger

> > Station" a couple of other photos by George Perkinson, snapshots with

> > a view of a the 608 and possibly the 606, at Portsmouth. It is

> > diffiicult to make out whether it is a 6 or 8 in the halftone. These

> > photos are clearly snapshot-type photos, made by the local

> > correspondent. It is quite possible that prints were just provided to

> > the magazine department and discarded after article was published and

> > the negatives were never actually made a part of the company files, or

>

> > were purged when the files were cleaned out in the 1960s or so. And

> > yes, that did happen.

> >

> > If anyone wants, I'll be glad to scan and provide these pages to Ron

> > for posting on the web.

> >

> > I do know of a couple of reels of 16mm company film that are out takes

>

> > from the 1944 film "Modern Coal Burning Steam Locomotives" that

> > include films of a couple of J1's in service. If you have seen the

> > film, you know there is not a sign of a J1 in the finished film, even

> > though they were running around all over at this time. I am working on

>

> > the film to bring it to market in the future. They are only glimpses

> > of the J1s, one on a train, one at Shaffers Crossing but how many have

>

> > you seen in live and in color?

> >

> > Best

> >

> > Ken Miller

> >

> > On Aug 8, 2005, at 6:18 PM, nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org wrote:

> >

> >> Dear Kenneth Miller,

> >>

> >> You wrote a GREAT book! I recomend it to any N&W fan!

> >>

> >> Please excuse me for disturbe you, but your book presents one of the

> >> few pictures of the un-streamlined pictures in actual service. Are

> >> there any other pictures? Are them available, or printes in any othe

> >> book?

> >>

> >> tks,

> >>

> >> Luiz Affonso Saraiva

> >> a N&W fan from Brazil

> >

>

>

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