Bowser to DCC was Re: Rivarossi Y6b question

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Wow Nigel you are a wealth of information. I will have to look at my kit and 
make sure its got the old motor but from the instructions included I am 
pretty sure it is non-DCC motor. That was really the only thing holding me 
back from making that conversion, which would give me three operating J's on 
my layout along with three Y6b's and an E2 so far....

Bob Welsh

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Subject: Bowser to DCC was Re: Rivarossi Y6b question



> Hi Bob;

>

> On your Bowser kit, trade the motor in for a new one that is DCC ready 

> with a skew wound armature and high energy magnets.  Scroll down to near 

> the bottom of:  http://www.bowser-trains.com/hoother/dcc/dcc.htm

>

> Alternatively, an Alliance Helix Humper.  http://www.alliancelink.com/alp/

>

> For a decoder: Digitrax DH123D is one of the many choices. 

> http://www.digitrax.com/prd_mobdec_dh123d.php

> and if you need more than two functions DH163 

> http://www.digitrax.com/prd_mobdec_dh163d.php

>

> There are many other decoder options out there including Lenz, TCS, NCE 

> and others that will also work well for you.

>

> Nigel F Misso

> nfmisso at mchsi.com

>

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

> To: "N and W Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:59 AM

> Subject: Re: Rivarossi Y6b question

>

>

>> Hmmmm is that a really complicated operation? I have been considering 

>> replacing the motor and trying to make it a simpler operation. Likewise, 

>> I have the bowser re-motor kit for a J and it appears that making this a 

>> DCC-ready locomotive would be a bear. Anyone done it successfully and 

>> able to share a few pointers?

>>

>> Bob Welsh

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>> From: <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>> To: "N and W Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 1:53 AM

>> Subject: Re: Rivarossi Y6b question

>>

>>

>>> Hi Bob;

>>>

>>> For the motor in the cab units, you may want to replace the Rivarossi 

>>> motor with a Mashima, or NWSL motor.  The swap will provide better 

>>> operation, and easier DCC conversion.

>>>

>>> Nigel F Misso

>>> nfmisso at mchsi.com

>>>

>>> ----- Original Message ----- 

>>> From: <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>> To: "N and W Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:06 AM

>>> Subject: Re: Rivarossi Y6b question

>>>

>>>

>>>> Wow i posted this more than a week ago.

>>>> I have since determined that i have one unit with the motor in the 

>>>> center and two with the motors in the cab. In either case it appears I 

>>>> have to do some modification to the frame of the motors at least on the 

>>>> cab-mounted ones to make it work electrically. I have not had time 

>>>> since I last posted to really forge ahead on this but I will make 

>>>> careful notes in case someone else comes along behind me needing 

>>>> advice, just as several of you on here have done for me. Thanks!

>>>>

>>>> Bob Welsh

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 

>>>> From: <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>>> To: <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:19 PM

>>>> Subject: Re: Rivarossi Y6b question

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> motor in the cab....and as best as I can figure I will have to tip 

>>>>> apart the front of the locomotive to get at the light to isolate it as 

>>>>> I can only locate one of the headlamp leads...

>>>>>

>>>>> Bob Welsh

>>>>>

>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>>>> To: "N and W Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:58 PM

>>>>> Subject: Re: Rivarossi Y6b question

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>Hi Bob;

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Reading your note, I think that you have things pretty well scoped 

>>>>>>out. Both the motor and headlight get power from the frame.  You must 

>>>>>>sever those connections.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Get out your multimeter, and make sure the motor and the light bulb 

>>>>>>are isolated, then hook up the decoder.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>You may want to add a resistor in series with the light bulb so that 

>>>>>>it does not get excessively hot and melt the shell.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Which version(s) of the Riv Y6b do you have; motor in cab or motor in 

>>>>>>the center?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Nigel F Misso

>>>>>>nfmisso at mchsi.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>>>>>To: "N and W Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:15 PM

>>>>>>Subject: Rivarossi Y6b question

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>I need a little help here. I have three of these. I am planning on 

>>>>>>>putting DCC decoders in them. I have one of them open on my workbench 

>>>>>>>now. I need help in determining:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>A) which wires are for what - from my eyes it LOOKS like the motor 

>>>>>>>gets half its power from a pickup on the engineer side wired to a 

>>>>>>>contact on the motor and the other side of the power through the 

>>>>>>>locomotive frame to the case of the motor. I have figured out how to 

>>>>>>>isolate that to get to the DCC decoded I think.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>B) how does the headlight get its power? I can see one wire that 

>>>>>>>leads from the motor case to the front. Therefore I am assuming the 

>>>>>>>other half the bulb's power is also coming from the frame? I am 

>>>>>>>scared to tear the thing apart much more without knowing what I am 

>>>>>>>doing. I had a lot less trouble putting a decoder in an early 60's 

>>>>>>>Mantua Pacific in the course of making N&W #578.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Any help would be appreciated.. feel free to post it here or email me 

>>>>>>>directly at bob at firedogwireless.com. If putting my email address in 

>>>>>>>this post is taboo, Mr Moderator, please edit it out and send the 

>>>>>>>post on... I really want to run something other than a J, the E2 or 

>>>>>>>an inappropriate 2-10-0 on my newly-updated to DCC layout....

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Bob Welsh

>>>>>>>

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