NW-Modeling-List Digest, Vol 66, Issue 16

[NW Modeling List]

RE: N&W CF caboose:

Broadway Limited subscribes to a different business model than the rest of
us. The company is averse to risk, which makes sense, but in avoiding risk
it also eliminates success. The CF caboose is an example. With all the N&W
Class A, J and Y6b steam locos sold by Broadway over the past few years,
you'd think that they would have created a market for the caboose. After
all, there's no accurate ready-to-roll N&W caboose on the market. But
because Broadway was unwilling to pony up the money for this model without
something of a guarantee that the model would sell, they canceled
production.

Probably more accurate a reason for the cancellation is that the company is
under-capitalized, that its lender(s) have insisted that pre-orders be shown
before a letter of credit is issued, and, finally, that the company was at
least peripherally involved in a big lawsuit until somewhat recently.

For all I know, Broadway's policies work for them. but I, for one, am
uncomfortable with ordering in advance, sight unseen. Whether a pre-order
means a pre-pay, or simply a hold placed on an amount on a credit card, it
means that I trust the company I'm ordering from enough to put my money up
front. In the case of Broadway Limited, their unreliable delivery schedule,
the generally abysmal quality control combined with slipshod engineering,
and the flavor-of-the-week sound/DCC boards combine to instill tremendous
doubt in my mind that what I order will be produced, or would be worth
buying.

Ivan Abrams

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>   1. Re: PCM/Broadway N&W CF Caboose in HO (NW Modeling List)

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> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:47:44 -0400

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> Subject: Re: PCM/Broadway N&W CF Caboose in HO

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> It has been discussed before, the item has been canceled.  Apparently there

> were not enough orders.  I had one on order at my LHS for about forever, at

> least 2.5 years, whenever they were first announced.  If you check out

> there

> website, I believe the Caboose is no longer there.  The only good news is

> that it looks like in August the SD40-2 hi hood for N&W will be on the

> shelves.  Though I believe this item was originally announced in the fall

> of

> 06.  So it took them almost three years.  Fortunately on both these items

> my

> LHS did not require a deposit (since I am a good customer) and he told me

> not to cancel the order.

>

> I split era's.  I love the diesel era of N&W but I do run steam on

> occasion,

> especially at shows.  Right before the CF caboose was announced, I picked

> up

> a brass Division Point, N&W caboose factory painted.  But since I have two

> steam freight engines I needed another one.  So, would check ebay from time

> to time and managed to snag two wooden kits, which are now on my to-do

> list.

>

> A.J. Gemperline

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> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:31:43 +0000 (GMT)

> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

> Subject: Re: CF Cabooses

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> Charlie, I was also looking forward to these cabooses, but I've never

> bought into the pre-order thing.  So I guess indirectly I, and others like

> me, bear some responsibility.

>

> Will that change my behavior?  Probably not.

>

> I'm still a little perturbed with Broadway as on the back of the CF

> cancellation, they've recently gone silent on the USRA Light Pacific they'd

> been dangling (which was to serve as a stand in for an E2).  I hear they

> make good stuff, but as they keep cancelling everything I want, I may never

> know!

>

> In the meantime, grab an AMB CF kit - not a built-up, but not hard either.

> And more importantly, they're actually on the shelves!

>

> Matt Goodman

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> On Jun 18, 2009, at 3:05 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

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> For those that didn't understand the message I apologize, it should have

> said "Can anyone tell me if the N&W cabooses by Precision Craft were

> produced.  I had 5 on order but Walthers says "sold out" and the place I

> ordered from told me discountinued.  I would have thought these would have

> sold well since most talk I have heard seemed that people wanted them.

>

> Charlie

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