NW-Modeling-List Digest, Vol 66, Issue 16

[NW Modeling List]

A logical and well-reasoned explanation.  I too agree with Mr. Abrams that the practices of BLI are discouraging to the customer who are requested to assume the business risk by purchasing a product which does not yet exist.

 

All business involves risk and those of us who look forward to production of an accurate caboose are disappointed that one has yet to be marketed.

Ed Svitil


 


Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:29:44 +0200
Subject: Re: NW-Modeling-List Digest, Vol 66, Issue 16
To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org

RE: N&W CF caboose:

Broadway Limited subscribes to a different business model than the rest of us. The company is averse to risk, which makes sense, but in avoiding risk it also eliminates success. The CF caboose is an example. With all the N&W Class A, J and Y6b steam locos sold by Broadway over the past few years, you'd think that they would have created a market for the caboose. After all, there's no accurate ready-to-roll N&W caboose on the market. But because Broadway was unwilling to pony up the money for this model without something of a guarantee that the model would sell, they canceled production.

Probably more accurate a reason for the cancellation is that the company is under-capitalized, that its lender(s) have insisted that pre-orders be shown before a letter of credit is issued, and, finally, that the company was at least peripherally involved in a big lawsuit until somewhat recently.

For all I know, Broadway's policies work for them. but I, for one, am uncomfortable with ordering in advance, sight unseen. Whether a pre-order means a pre-pay, or simply a hold placed on an amount on a credit card, it means that I trust the company I'm ordering from enough to put my money up front. In the case of Broadway Limited, their unreliable delivery schedule, the generally abysmal quality control combined with slipshod engineering, and the flavor-of-the-week sound/DCC boards combine to instill tremendous doubt in my mind that what I order will be produced, or would be worth buying.

Ivan Abrams


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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: PCM/Broadway N&W CF Caboose in HO (NW Modeling List)
  2. Re: CF Cabooses (NW Modeling List)
  3. Re: Northwest Shortlines E2a (NW Modeling List)


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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:47:44 -0400
From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: Re: PCM/Broadway N&W CF Caboose in HO
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It has been discussed before, the item has been canceled.  Apparently there
were not enough orders.  I had one on order at my LHS for about forever, at
least 2.5 years, whenever they were first announced.  If you check out there
website, I believe the Caboose is no longer there.  The only good news is
that it looks like in August the SD40-2 hi hood for N&W will be on the
shelves.  Though I believe this item was originally announced in the fall of
06.  So it took them almost three years.  Fortunately on both these items my
LHS did not require a deposit (since I am a good customer) and he told me
not to cancel the order.

I split era's.  I love the diesel era of N&W but I do run steam on occasion,
especially at shows.  Right before the CF caboose was announced, I picked up
a brass Division Point, N&W caboose factory painted.  But since I have two
steam freight engines I needed another one.  So, would check ebay from time
to time and managed to snag two wooden kits, which are now on my to-do list.

A.J. Gemperline
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:31:43 +0000 (GMT)
From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: Re: CF Cabooses
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Charlie, I was also looking forward to these cabooses, but I've never bought into the pre-order thing.  So I guess indirectly I, and others like me, bear some responsibility.

Will that change my behavior?  Probably not.

I'm still a little perturbed with Broadway as on the back of the CF cancellation, they've recently gone silent on the USRA Light Pacific they'd been dangling (which was to serve as a stand in for an E2).  I hear they make good stuff, but as they keep cancelling everything I want, I may never know!

In the meantime, grab an AMB CF kit - not a built-up, but not hard either. And more importantly, they're actually on the shelves!

Matt Goodman

On Jun 18, 2009, at 3:05 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

For those that didn't understand the message I apologize, it should have said "Can anyone tell me if the N&W cabooses by Precision Craft were produced.  I had 5 on order but Walthers says "sold out" and the place I ordered from told me discountinued.  I would have thought these would have sold well since most talk I have heard seemed that people wanted them.

Charlie
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