Modeling N&W RS-3s in 1956

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If you are modeling the N&W RS-3's, you need to know that the cab differences 
were not just window arrangement. Because of the dual controls the cab on the 
N&W units was a little longer than standard. It appears to have been the same 
dimensions as the cab on an RS-11. Naturally, this means a slight adjustment in 
the handrails as well. All in all this is a more complicated modeling project 
than it first appears to be. Good luck. 
 Jim Nichols




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I may be wrong but I recollect it was the Durham Line the RS-3’s were first 
assigned to.  In the end they were assigned to locations like Norfolk and 
Sandusky.
 
Ed Painter Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR 
 
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They were used on the Peavine in the 1956-57 time period, too.  Gary Rolih, 
Cincinnati
 
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The RS3s supposedly were originally assigned as a group to the Winston-Salem to 
Roanoke line.  However, there is a picture on page 274 of Mason Cooper's new 
book on the POCAHONTAS DIV published by our society showing an eastbound coal 
train with three ALCO RS11s and one RS3 at Big Four, WV on the "POKY" on May 10, 
1956. The lead unit, at least is still in the black steam era colors and 
lettering.  Don't know if this was an unusual occurrence but i have seen other 
pictures of RS3s which had wandered off from the Winston-Salem line.  

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:45 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> 
wrote:
Where were they assigned?
 
Philip Taylor
Never assume that the way it is now is the way it has always been
http://acwrr.blogspot.com

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To add to this, since the RS3s were delivered with dual controls, the cab window 
arrangement is different than on "stock" phase III RS3s.  Check pictures and 
maybe use an extra shell of any phase model to modify the cab sides.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> 
wrote:
Neither the Atlas or Athearn RS-3 models are made with Phase-III carbodies.  
Stewart made HO RS-3’s with Phase–III carbodies.  Finding a Stewart shell may 
take a bit of effort but through internet searches you will likely find one over 
time.  I did a search and found one that had already sold so they are out 
there.  I’d also caution you to look at the cab window size, the stack 
orientation, and short hood details.  The RS-3’s bought new by the N&W had 
dynamic brakes which effected the location of the number boards and added 
addition detail to the short hood.  Looking at pictures of the 3 sides and top 
of the short hood will show these details.  As for the early N&W diesel 
lettering, I don’t know of and decals produced to specifically address this 
scheme.  My suggestion, since the lettering was the same style and gold color 
used on stream locomotives would be to investigate the various decal sets made 
for N&W steam locomotives and see if you can find a size match.  The Microscale 
set includes different sizes of lettering.   
 
Ed Painter – Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR     
 
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Subject: Modelling N&W RS-3s in 1956
 
Hi all,
 
I've always been fond of RS-3s and upon realizing quickly that the N&W acquired 
eight of them as their first diesels in 1955 I've decided I'd like to 
investigate modelling them in HO-scale. 
 
First off, I've not found any models painted in the as-delivered paint scheme 
which I understand is all-over black with Dulux gold lettering yes? I know they 
were originally numbered 92-99 then renumbered 300-307 in 1956. 
 
Of those created by Athearn/MDC, Atlas and Bachmann which would be closest to a 
Phase-III unit? if I cannot acquire a Phase III unit I'll use whatever's the 
best stand-in. Can anyone recommend a good decal set? I understand the steam 
engine decals might be a good choice but wanted to get a second opinion. 
 
Thank you in advance
Alvie Hearren

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They were used on the Peavine in the 1956-57 time period, too.  Gary Rolih, 
Cincinnati
 
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The RS3s supposedly were originally assigned as a group to the Winston-Salem to 
Roanoke line.  However, there is a picture on page 274 of Mason Cooper's new 
book on the POCAHONTAS DIV published by our society showing an eastbound coal 
train with three ALCO RS11s and one RS3 at Big Four, WV on the "POKY" on May 10, 
1956. The lead unit, at least is still in the black steam era colors and 
lettering.  Don't know if this was an unusual occurrence but i have seen other 
pictures of RS3s which had wandered off from the Winston-Salem line.  

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:45 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> 
wrote:
Where were they assigned?
 
Philip Taylor
Never assume that the way it is now is the way it has always been
http://acwrr.blogspot.com

________________________________

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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Modeling N&W RS-3s in 1956
To add to this, since the RS3s were delivered with dual controls, the cab window 
arrangement is different than on "stock" phase III RS3s.  Check pictures and 
maybe use an extra shell of any phase model to modify the cab sides.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> 
wrote:
Neither the Atlas or Athearn RS-3 models are made with Phase-III carbodies.  
Stewart made HO RS-3’s with Phase–III carbodies.  Finding a Stewart shell may 
take a bit of effort but through internet searches you will likely find one over 
time.  I did a search and found one that had already sold so they are out 
there.  I’d also caution you to look at the cab window size, the stack 
orientation, and short hood details.  The RS-3’s bought new by the N&W had 
dynamic brakes which effected the location of the number boards and added 
addition detail to the short hood.  Looking at pictures of the 3 sides and top 
of the short hood will show these details.  As for the early N&W diesel 
lettering, I don’t know of and decals produced to specifically address this 
scheme.  My suggestion, since the lettering was the same style and gold color 
used on stream locomotives would be to investigate the various decal sets made 
for N&W steam locomotives and see if you can find a size match.  The Microscale 
set includes different sizes of lettering.   
 
Ed Painter – Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR     
 
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Subject: Modelling N&W RS-3s in 1956
 
Hi all,
 
I've always been fond of RS-3s and upon realizing quickly that the N&W acquired 
eight of them as their first diesels in 1955 I've decided I'd like to 
investigate modelling them in HO-scale. 
 
First off, I've not found any models painted in the as-delivered paint scheme 
which I understand is all-over black with Dulux gold lettering yes? I know they 
were originally numbered 92-99 then renumbered 300-307 in 1956. 
 
Of those created by Athearn/MDC, Atlas and Bachmann which would be closest to a 
Phase-III unit? if I cannot acquire a Phase III unit I'll use whatever's the 
best stand-in. Can anyone recommend a good decal set? I understand the steam 
engine decals might be a good choice but wanted to get a second opinion. 
 
Thank you in advance
Alvie Hearren

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They were used on the Peavine in the 1956-57 time period, too.  Gary Rolih, 
Cincinnati
 
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The RS3s supposedly were originally assigned as a group to the Winston-Salem to 
Roanoke line.  However, there is a picture on page 274 of Mason Cooper's new 
book on the POCAHONTAS DIV published by our society showing an eastbound coal 
train with three ALCO RS11s and one RS3 at Big Four, WV on the "POKY" on May 10, 
1956. The lead unit, at least is still in the black steam era colors and 
lettering.  Don't know if this was an unusual occurrence but i have seen other 
pictures of RS3s which had wandered off from the Winston-Salem line.  

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:45 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> 
wrote:
Where were they assigned?
 
Philip Taylor
Never assume that the way it is now is the way it has always been
http://acwrr.blogspot.com

________________________________

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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Modeling N&W RS-3s in 1956
To add to this, since the RS3s were delivered with dual controls, the cab window 
arrangement is different than on "stock" phase III RS3s.  Check pictures and 
maybe use an extra shell of any phase model to modify the cab sides.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> 
wrote:
Neither the Atlas or Athearn RS-3 models are made with Phase-III carbodies.  
Stewart made HO RS-3’s with Phase–III carbodies.  Finding a Stewart shell may 
take a bit of effort but through internet searches you will likely find one over 
time.  I did a search and found one that had already sold so they are out 
there.  I’d also caution you to look at the cab window size, the stack 
orientation, and short hood details.  The RS-3’s bought new by the N&W had 
dynamic brakes which effected the location of the number boards and added 
addition detail to the short hood.  Looking at pictures of the 3 sides and top 
of the short hood will show these details.  As for the early N&W diesel 
lettering, I don’t know of and decals produced to specifically address this 
scheme.  My suggestion, since the lettering was the same style and gold color 
used on stream locomotives would be to investigate the various decal sets made 
for N&W steam locomotives and see if you can find a size match.  The Microscale 
set includes different sizes of lettering.   
 
Ed Painter – Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR     
 
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Subject: Modelling N&W RS-3s in 1956
 
Hi all,
 
I've always been fond of RS-3s and upon realizing quickly that the N&W acquired 
eight of them as their first diesels in 1955 I've decided I'd like to 
investigate modelling them in HO-scale. 
 
First off, I've not found any models painted in the as-delivered paint scheme 
which I understand is all-over black with Dulux gold lettering yes? I know they 
were originally numbered 92-99 then renumbered 300-307 in 1956. 
 
Of those created by Athearn/MDC, Atlas and Bachmann which would be closest to a 
Phase-III unit? if I cannot acquire a Phase III unit I'll use whatever's the 
best stand-in. Can anyone recommend a good decal set? I understand the steam 
engine decals might be a good choice but wanted to get a second opinion. 
 
Thank you in advance
Alvie Hearren

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"POKY" on May 10, 1956. The lead unit, at least is still in the black steam era 
colors and lettering.  Don't know if this was an unusual occurrence but i have 
seen other pictures of RS3s which had wandered off from the Winston-Salem line.  

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:45 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> 
wrote:
Where were they assigned?
 
Philip Taylor
Never assume that the way it is now is the way it has always been
http://acwrr.blogspot.com/

________________________________

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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Modeling N&W RS-3s in 1956
To add to this, since the RS3s were delivered with dual controls, the cab window 
arrangement is different than on "stock" phase III RS3s.  Check pictures and 
maybe use an extra shell of any phase model to modify the cab sides.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> 
wrote:
Neither the Atlas or Athearn RS-3 models are made with Phase-III carbodies.  
Stewart made HO RS-3’s with Phase–III carbodies.  Finding a Stewart shell may 
take a bit of effort but through internet searches you will likely find one over 
time.  I did a search and found one that had already sold so they are out 
there.  I’d also caution you to look at the cab window size, the stack 
orientation, and short hood details.  The RS-3’s bought new by the N&W had 
dynamic brakes which effected the location of the number boards and added 
addition detail to the short hood.  Looking at pictures of the 3 sides and top 
of the short hood will show these details.  As for the early N&W diesel 
lettering, I don’t know of and decals produced to specifically address this 
scheme.  My suggestion, since the lettering was the same style and gold color 
used on stream locomotives would be to investigate the various decal sets made 
for N&W steam locomotives and see if you can find a size match.  The Microscale 
set includes different sizes of lettering.   
 
Ed Painter – Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR     
 
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Subject: Modelling N&W RS-3s in 1956
 
Hi all,
 
I've always been fond of RS-3s and upon realizing quickly that the N&W acquired 
eight of them as their first diesels in 1955 I've decided I'd like to 
investigate modelling them in HO-scale. 
 
First off, I've not found any models painted in the as-delivered paint scheme 
which I understand is all-over black with Dulux gold lettering yes? I know they 
were originally numbered 92-99 then renumbered 300-307 in 1956. 
 
Of those created by Athearn/MDC, Atlas and Bachmann which would be closest to a 
Phase-III unit? if I cannot acquire a Phase III unit I'll use whatever's the 
best stand-in. Can anyone recommend a good decal set? I understand the steam 
engine decals might be a good choice but wanted to get a second opinion. 
 
Thank you in advance
Alvie Hearren

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