NW-Modeling-List Digest, Vol 170, Issue 2

Tue Jul 11 11:43:11 EDT 2017

Well, I don't know or understand all the particulars that are involved with working out production on something like the M. I don't pretend to have it straight in my mind but more information would be required to garner any serious reservations. It's easy to say "put me down for XXX M's". There were several variations that would or could make the difference. Beside 3 possible tenders, options include inside or outside steam pipes to the cylinders, headlights and headlight locations, pilots and others I can't recall off the top of my head. I'm sure many would want the 475 as the Strasburg engine too.
Anyway, having ANY M produced would be a great thing as the Sunset models are getting more and more scarce on feebay and in the few remaining brass shops and their cost has risen to a number many don't care to pay. The last LMB version I saw was definitely overpriced especially considering the many upgrades to bring it up to normally accepted standards. 
Personally, I'd prefer the version with the 12,000g/20t Lewis trucked tender, outside pipes, high Pyle headlight and road pilot with Baker valve gear and undecorated.
Lets' cross our fingers that the M model may come to us!
Roger HuberDeer Creek Locomotive Works

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 -D;
IF the NWHS would proceed with an agreement with BLI to produce a locomotive, and in this case a Class M, the Society would pay for all production costs, including over runs. The society's initial outlay would be in the range of ~$300K, to start. The society would need to sell atleast 1,000 pieces at $400.00 ea in order to provide a profit back on the initial investment, plus cover packaging and shipping costs to BLI for product inspection and then shipping to ROA for final shipment to the customer. Additionally, the contact with BLI may include their right to sell the model as well, under their brand name after a specified period of time, whether or not the society has sold their entire inventory by the end of the contract date. 
While I don’t know the exact particulars of what the contract would be with BLI, I am guessing that the Society didn't see a true benefit in executing a contract with BLI for an M Class loco.
In the past, the society has been successful in having custom runs produced of models that are already in production, such as the leased RF&P E-8'S and the leased ACL E-7'S, both of which were run through a contract with Proto 2000. Other successful projects have been completed with Bowser, Stewart and Intermountain.
Hope this helps.
Regards Russ Goodwin Oakwood, GA Former NWHS Modelling Committee Chair

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Date: 7/11/17 06:48 (GMT-05:00) 
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Hi,
Sorry if I am confused, is the reason you do not want to work with bli because you need to pay for production?  Could you explain what you meant of it was some other business reason?  That explanation included a bunch of caps lock letters which is the equivalent of yelling but was short on reasons.
-D
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017, 7:17 PM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

We are not going to be talking to BLI ever. With that said the ones that I Dean Taylor have been talking to on my own (Alex) are talking are interested with that said.THE NORFOLK AND WESTERN HISTORICAL SOCIETY IS NOT GOING TO PAY FOR PRODUCTION. So it may be awhile we need to so there is a market and that we have been lacking in. DEAN TAYLOR at NWHS  

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-------- Original message --------From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>Date: 7/10/17 2:30 PM (GMT-05:00) To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.orgSubject: Re: NW-Modeling-List Digest, Vol 170, Issue 2 
who are the other manufactures being prodded to do some N&W engines like 
the M etc?

I would not want to contact BLI till there's enough back support froom 
dealers, modelers, but it looks BLI is up to the task.

Usually if you can make a model, it can find a buyer eventually.

-Lynn.

On 7/10/2017 1:36 AM, nw-modeling-list-request at nwhs.org wrote:
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> Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 20:38:47 -0400
> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
> Subject: Re: BLI limited exclusive run program
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> If they can do a Class M, then they can do a Virginian PA as well. I'm good
>  for one of each.
>
> Greg Harrod
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>
>
> In a message dated 07/08/2017 5:43:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just read in MRC that BLI is doing a program to run exclusive
> locomotives with groups.
>
>
> !?!?!? Can we do a Class M !?!?
>
>
> David
>
>

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