HO scale decals (NW Modeling List)

NW Modeling List nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
Tue Sep 22 14:57:05 EDT 2020 

I like your idea and would use the decals you propose.

Walter Davis, Youngsville, NC

On 9/22/2020 11:24 AM, NW Modeling List wrote:
> One other factor to consider when the time comes to put together the 
> decal sheet.  Do you include extra builders plates and class badges 
> for known factory painted models that are lacking them, like the 
> Broadway A's and J's?  Bare in mind I am not expecting an answer on 
> this, just trying to generate discussion as Shellscale and the Society 
> decide what needs to be included in the set, and how many of each.  
> But I do think there will be a market not just for people painting 
> models for the first time, but also people who have either factory or 
> custom painted models that they would want to go back and add these 
> details to.  If I have to buy 6 sets to apply builders plates to 8 
> engines, I will, but if I could do the same number of engines and only 
> buy 2 sets, that would be great. It all depends on how many decals you 
> have to arrange on the sheet, or sheets (A lot of Shellscale sets have 
> used 2 sheets).
>
> Also, one revision I like on the most recent Microscale sheet is they 
> supplied black backgrounds for the builders plates, which makes a big 
> difference if applying them to an engine with a smoke box that lacks 
> the boiler jacketing.
>
> Marty Flick
>
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> Cc: "NW Modeling List"
> Sent: Monday September 21 2020 11:23:09PM
> Subject: Re: HO scale decals (NW Modeling List)
>
> While excursion era 611 decals have no interest for me I think Marty 
> has the right idea. If going for the ultimate steam set then that 
> should also be a part of it.
>
> Roger Huber
> Deer Creek Locomotive Works
>
>
> On Monday, September 21, 2020, 03:46:10 PM CDT, NW Modeling List 
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
>
> Not to open up a can of worms, because I know some people are 
> sensitive about this, but any possibility of throwing in a couple of 
> excursion era graphics for 611 on the decal sheet?  For example, 
> decals for the Robert Claytor plaque and the "I am the thoroughbred of 
> steam..." sticker?
>
> I'd buy the set either way, but if we are going for the ultimate N&W 
> steam decal set, why not include as much as possible?
>
> Marty Flick
>
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> Sent: Sunday September 20 2020 6:45:42PM
> Subject: Re: HO scale decals (NW Modeling List)
>
> Richard and I have already been discussing this and it will be 
> correct. Believe me.
>
> Besides builders and class plates, I am thinking headlight number 
> boards, number plates, all sizes and designs of steam, cabside 
> lettering, appropriate tender tank lettering, etc. etc.
>
> Ken Miller
>
> > On Sep 20, 2020, at 1:39 PM, NW Modeling List 
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >
> > All
> >
> > I would love to see some N&W Steam Decals produced with research and 
> techniques up to 2020 standards. The B&O folks just got a set in the 
> last year with the correct lettering style. Archive research 
> throughout the hobby has brought these fine details to the fore. Let's 
> include a detailed usage guide so you don't have to guess about which 
> lettering size goes where.
> >
> > But please let's not forget about some of the smaller size locos 
> like G, M and W and maybe we can get some of those older brass models 
> out of closets and from underneath layouts and taking places of honor 
> on top of the layout. No. 6 has gathered a lot of dust waiting.
> >
> > Stoney
> > Rick C. Stone
> > NWHS #0001
> >
> >
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> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 07:21:04 +0000 (UTC)
> >> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> To: NW model list <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> Subject: HO scale decals
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> >> It would be nice to have these decals in n-scale.
> >> Jeff Wood
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> >> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 10:41:56 -0400
> >> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> Subject: Re: HO N&W Steam Decals
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> >> Marty,
> >>
> >> I checked the ShellSclae, K4, and Tichy offerings but there is nothing
> >> really on point; Tichy offers the stripe set for the J, and has a 
> generic
> >> set of builders plates. Otherwise zilch. Perhaps the NWHS Modeling
> >> committee could address this issue.
> >>
> >> Jim Brewer
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 PM NW Modeling List 
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Other than Microscale, are there any choices for HO scale N&W steam
> >>> locomotive decals that include the builders plates and class badges? I
> >>> ordered Microscale's latest revision, and while it does finally 
> put the
> >>> builders plates and class badges in more of a bronze or brass 
> color instead
> >>> of dulux gold like the lettering, it still has a poor selection of 
> classes
> >>> repesented on the plates and badges. There are no A's, and no Y's 
> other
> >>> than Y6b. Their O scale revision includes these additional 
> classes, so it
> >>> is frustrating that the HO version still does not. I've looked 
> around but
> >>> can't find any currently in production other than Microscale. I 
> know the
> >>> Champ sets don't have the plates and badges I am looking for. Are 
> there
> >>> any options besides finding an appropriately sized "A" in another 
> set and
> >>> combining it with the Microscale?
> >>>
> >>> Marty Flick
> >>>
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> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 09:38:46 -0400
> >> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> Subject: Re: HO scale decals
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> >> I agree, But I doubt if it will be done, We seem to be in the minority
> >>
> >> Joe Grzelak
> >>
> >> On 9/20/2020 3:21 AM, NW Modeling List wrote:
> >>> It would be nice to have these decals in n-scale.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff Wood
> >>>
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> >> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 11:42:22 -0400
> >> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> Subject: Re: HO N&W Steam Decals
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> >> Marty
> >>
> >> The Society can do the N&W steam decals, the Microscale set is a 
> bit undersized for the 10 inch letters. However, we have to order a 
> fairly high number of sets to keep the pricing reasonable, and 
> therefore demand must be there for the investment of time.
> >>
> >> They can be done with correct builder?s plates and class plates 
> (Class J plates were chromed, I believe the streamlined K2 plates were 
> also chromed) and bronze for most of the others, the Y3s were cast 
> iron I know for sure, class plates bronze.
> >>
> >> We could also include the correct early small cab size lettering, 
> and the aluminum color lettering for passenger power.
> >>
> >> It all depends on demand.
> >>
> >> Best
> >> Ken Miller
> >>
> >>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 10:41 AM, NW Modeling List 
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Marty,
> >>>
> >>> I checked the ShellSclae, K4, and Tichy offerings but there is 
> nothing really on point; Tichy offers the stripe set for the J, and 
> has a generic set of builders plates. Otherwise zilch. Perhaps the 
> NWHS Modeling committee could address this issue.
> >>>
> >>> Jim Brewer
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 PM NW Modeling List 
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >>> Other than Microscale, are there any choices for HO scale N&W 
> steam locomotive decals that include the builders plates and class 
> badges? I ordered Microscale's latest revision, and while it does 
> finally put the builders plates and class badges in more of a bronze 
> or brass color instead of dulux gold like the lettering, it still has 
> a poor selection of classes repesented on the plates and badges. There 
> are no A's, and no Y's other than Y6b. Their O scale revision includes 
> these additional classes, so it is frustrating that the HO version 
> still does not. I've looked around but can't find any currently in 
> production other than Microscale. I know the Champ sets don't have the 
> plates and badges I am looking for. Are there any options besides 
> finding an appropriately sized "A" in another set and combining it 
> with the Microscale?
> >>>
> >>> Marty Flick
> >>>
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> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 16:30:38 +0000
> >> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> To: "'NW Modeling List'" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> Subject: Re: HO N&W Steam Decals
> >> Message-ID: <mailman.1095.1600619825.10487.nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Two questions then:
> >> How do we show our interest for the Society to gauge demand?
> >> Rather than the Society invest in the production, could you first
> >> engage with MicroScale to offer a further update of their decal?
> >> Marty Flick
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------From: "NW Modeling List"
> >> To: "NW Modeling List"
> >> Cc:
> >> Sent: Sunday September 20 2020 12:23:08PM
> >> Subject: Re: HO N&W Steam Decals
> >>
> >> Marty
> >>
> >> The Society can do the N&W steam decals, the Microscale set is a bit
> >> undersized for the 10 inch letters. However, we have to order a fairly
> >> high number of sets to keep the pricing reasonable, and therefore
> >> demand must be there for the investment of time.
> >>
> >> They can be done with correct builder?s plates and class plates
> >> (Class J plates were chromed, I believe the streamlined K2 plates were
> >> also chromed) and bronze for most of the others, the Y3s were cast
> >> iron I know for sure, class plates bronze.
> >>
> >> We could also include the correct early small cab size lettering, and
> >> the aluminum color lettering for passenger power.
> >>
> >> It all depends on demand.
> >>
> >> Best
> >> Ken Miller
> >>
> >>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 10:41 AM, NW Modeling List wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Marty,
> >>>
> >>> I checked the ShellSclae, K4, and Tichy offerings but there is
> >> nothing really on point; Tichy offers the stripe set for the J, and
> >> has a generic set of builders plates. Otherwise zilch. Perhaps the
> >> NWHS Modeling committee could address this issue.
> >>>
> >>> Jim Brewer
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 PM NW Modeling List wrote:
> >>> Other than Microscale, are there any choices for HO scale N&W steam
> >> locomotive decals that include the builders plates and class badges? I
> >> ordered Microscale's latest revision, and while it does finally put
> >> the builders plates and class badges in more of a bronze or brass
> >> color instead of dulux gold like the lettering, it still has a poor
> >> selection of classes repesented on the plates and badges. There are no
> >> A's, and no Y's other than Y6b. Their O scale revision includes these
> >> additional classes, so it is frustrating that the HO version still
> >> does not. I've looked around but can't find any currently in
> >> production other than Microscale. I know the Champ sets don't have the
> >> plates and badges I am looking for. Are there any options besides
> >> finding an appropriately sized "A" in another set and combining it
> >> with the Microscale?
> >>>
> >>> Marty Flick
> >>>
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> >> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 16:33:37 +0000
> >> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> To: "'NW Modeling List'" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> Subject: Re: HO scale decals
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> >> Microscale does offer their N&W steam set in N scale. I believe it is
> >> identical to the HO, so the limited builders plates and class badges
> >> remain. If Microscale were to further revise their HO set, the N scale
> >> would probably receive the same updates.
> >> Marty Flick
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------From: "NW Modeling List"
> >> To: "NW Modeling List"
> >> Cc:
> >> Sent: Sunday September 20 2020 11:43:08AM
> >> Subject: Re: HO scale decals
> >>
> >> I agree, But I doubt if it will be done, We seem to be in the
> >> minority
> >>
> >> Joe Grzelak
> >> On 9/20/2020 3:21 AM, NW Modeling List wrote:
> >> It would be nice to have these decals in n-scale.
> >> Jeff Wood
> >>
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> >> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 16:40:33 +0000 (UTC)
> >> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
> >> Subject: Re: HO N&W Steam Decals
> >> Message-ID: <mailman.1100.1600620144.10487.nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
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> >> ?Up to the minute update: With the assistance of the Society, 
> ShellScale Decals will be producing the steam set in 2021 in HO, O and 
> N Scale.?If you are familiar with our quality you know this will be a 
> good thing.?Richard D. ShellShellScale Decals?In a message dated 
> 9/20/2020 12:37:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org 
> writes:?
> >> Two questions then:?How do we show our interest for the Society to 
> gauge demand??Rather than the Society invest in the production, could 
> you first engage with MicroScale to offer a further update of their 
> decal??Marty Flick
> >>
> >> ?
> >> -----------------------------------------
> >> From: "NW Modeling List"
> >> To: "NW Modeling List"
> >> Cc:
> >> Sent: Sunday September 20 2020 12:23:08PM
> >> Subject: Re: HO N&W Steam Decals
> >>
> >> Marty
> >>
> >> The Society can do the N&W steam decals, the Microscale set is a 
> bit undersized for the 10 inch letters. However, we have to order a 
> fairly high number of sets to keep the pricing reasonable, and 
> therefore demand must be there for the investment of time.
> >>
> >> They can be done with correct builder?s plates and class plates 
> (Class J plates were chromed, I believe the streamlined K2 plates were 
> also chromed) and bronze for most of the others, the Y3s were cast 
> iron I know for sure, class plates bronze.
> >>
> >> We could also include the correct early small cab size lettering, 
> and the aluminum color lettering for passenger power.
> >>
> >> It all depends on demand.
> >>
> >> Best
> >> Ken Miller
> >>
> >>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 10:41 AM, NW Modeling List 
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Marty,
> >>>
> >>> I checked the ShellSclae, K4, and Tichy offerings but there is 
> nothing really on point; Tichy offers the stripe set for the J, and 
> has a generic set of builders plates. Otherwise zilch. Perhaps the 
> NWHS Modeling committee could address this issue.
> >>>
> >>> Jim Brewer
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 PM NW Modeling List 
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >>> Other than Microscale, are there any choices for HO scale N&W 
> steam locomotive decals that include the builders plates and class 
> badges? I ordered Microscale's latest revision, and while it does 
> finally put the builders plates and class badges in more of a bronze 
> or brass color instead of dulux gold like the lettering, it still has 
> a poor selection of classes repesented on the plates and badges. There 
> are no A's, and no Y's other than Y6b. Their O scale revision includes 
> these additional classes, so it is frustrating that the HO version 
> still does not. I've looked around but can't find any currently in 
> production other than Microscale. I know the Champ sets don't have the 
> plates and badges I am looking for. Are there any options besides 
> finding an appropriately sized "A" in another set and combining it 
> with the Microscale?
> >>>
> >>> Marty Flick
> >>>
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