NW-Modeling-List Digest, Vol 276, Issue 4

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Coaling Stations

Steve,

I wish I could help you with drawings, but I don't have any. You may have
to pick a prototype version and scale something from photos that fits your
scale and layout.

Putting aside the big facilities at Norfolk, Roanoke, Bluefield and
Williamson, there were a number of concrete structures between those
endpoints: Vicker/Walton, Farm, and Iaeger. They were of different sizes
and complexity, with the one at Auville Yard, Iaeger, being the least
complex. Having said that, the basic structures were each straightforward,
but the steel "rigging" of each was complex, and would be a challenge even
in HO scale.

There was a smaller facility at Shenandoah, VA, but the "rigging" was very
complex.

The volume "The N&W As I Knew It", published by the Society, has photos of
Vicker (page 98) and Shenandoah (page 136). I don't have photos of Auville
or Farm at hand, but they are around.

Hope this helps,
Bill McClure

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> David Baker has graciously invited us all to a tour of his fabulous layout
> via Zoom.  I will set up a Zoom session for Sunday evening, September 21st
> at 8:00 p.m. to facilitate this event and send it out a little closer to
> time  Please plan to attend as I think you will enjoy seeing what David has
> done and his methods and techniques for doing some really beautiful work.
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> In addition to searching the NWHS online Archives, I would recommend
> two books, both written by Thomas Dixon and published by TLC:
> "Steam Locomotive Coaling Stations and Diesel Locomotive Fueling
> Facilities"
> "Steam and Diesel Locomotive Terminals and Service Facilities"
> Both break down facilities by type (wood coaling stations, concrete
> stations, etc...), and feature plenty of photographs and drawings,
> including N&W prototypes.
> Marty Flick
>
>         -----------------------------------------From: "NW Modeling List
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> Sent: Friday September 5 2025 6:45:40AM
> Subject: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower
>
>   I am currently building a Gloor Craft (1980's vintage) N scale
> coaling tower. As this is not N&W specific, I assume I cannot enter
> the modeling contest at a convention. That said, all the photos I have
> seen all appear radically different; therefore, if there is a book or
> resource of all of the N&W/Southern towers/tipples, perhaps the Gloor
> Craft model might be a close approximation of one.
>  Assuming not, I would like to model a tower of a N&W or Southern
> prototype tipple/tower. Digging around the archives, I found little
> that could help me. I obtained an old Model Railroader booklet on
> coal, however once again with the exception of a few photos, not much
> use.
>  Could you gentlemen point me in the right direction? As this is in N
> scale, I am hoping I can find something not too detailed (but detailed
> enough). Am I on a fool's errand?
>  Thank you in advance. Steve Clark #4269
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> David Baker has graciously invited us all to a tour of hisfabulous layout
> via Zoom.? I will set upa Zoom session for Sunday evening, September 21st
> at 8:00 p.m. to facilitatethis event and send it out a little closer to
> time? Please plan to attend as I think you willenjoy seeing what David has
> done and his methods and techniques for doing somereally beautiful work.
>
> Jim Cochran
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>  Thank you Marty. I will look for those books. The Archives has limited
> information....not as detailed as I would like.?
>     On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 10:55:27 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
>  In addition to searching the NWHS online Archives, I would recommend two
> books, both written by Thomas Dixon and published by TLC:
> "Steam Locomotive Coaling Stations and Diesel Locomotive Fueling
> Facilities"
> "Steam and Diesel Locomotive Terminals and Service Facilities"
> Both break down facilities by type (wood coaling stations, concrete
> stations, etc...), and feature plenty of photographs and drawings,
> including N&W prototypes.??
> Marty Flick
>
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: "NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List"
> To: "nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org"
> Cc: "NW Modeling List"
> Sent: Friday September 5 2025 6:45:40AM
> Subject: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower
>
> I am currently building a GloorCraft (1980's vintage) N scale coaling
> tower.? As this is notN&W specific, I assume I cannot enter the modeling
> contest at aconvention. That said, all the photos I have seen all
> appearradically different; therefore, if there is a book or resource ofall
> of the N&W/Southern towers/tipples, perhaps the Gloor Craftmodel might be a
> close approximation of one.
> Assuming not, I would like tomodel a tower of a N&W or Southern
> prototypetipple/tower.? Digging around the archives, I found littlethat
> could help me. I obtained an old Model Railroader booklet oncoal, however
> once again with the exception of a few photos, notmuch use.
> Could you gentlemen point me inthe right direction? As this is in N scale,
> I am hoping I can findsomething not too detailed (but detailed enough). Am
> I on a fool'serrand?
> Thank you in advance.?Steve Clark
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> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
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> Here is a search reference to some coaling facilities, both N&W and VGN in
> the Archives
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=675
>
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=coal+wharf
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=14
>
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=Norfolk+type
>
> Searching the archives can be a bit touchy, and not always what you expect
> to find with your search terms. These probably are not every possibility,
> but may help narrow it down.
>
> There are some excellent drawings available in the Archives on these
> things.
>
> Just so you know, I am not including a coal tipple in the search, as a
> tipple refers typically to a coal company facility for loading hoppers, not
> locomotives.
>
> But if you search for it, you can find some interesting facilities there
> as well.
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=566
>
> Best
> Ken Miller
>
> > On Sep 8, 2025, at 11:00 AM, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Marty. I will look for those books. The Archives has limited
> information....not as detailed as I would like.
> >
> > On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 10:55:27 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > In addition to searching the NWHS online Archives, I would recommend two
> books, both written by Thomas Dixon and published by TLC:
> >
> > "Steam Locomotive Coaling Stations and Diesel Locomotive Fueling
> Facilities"
> >
> > "Steam and Diesel Locomotive Terminals and Service Facilities"
> >
> > Both break down facilities by type (wood coaling stations, concrete
> stations, etc...), and feature plenty of photographs and drawings,
> including N&W prototypes.
> >
> > Marty Flick
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> >
> > From: "NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List"
> > To: "nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org"
> > Cc: "NW Modeling List"
> > Sent: Friday September 5 2025 6:45:40AM
> > Subject: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower
> >
> > I am currently building a Gloor Craft (1980's vintage) N scale coaling
> tower.  As this is not N&W specific, I assume I cannot enter the modeling
> contest at a convention. That said, all the photos I have seen all appear
> radically different; therefore, if there is a book or resource of all of
> the N&W/Southern towers/tipples, perhaps the Gloor Craft model might be a
> close approximation of one.
> >
> > Assuming not, I would like to model a tower of a N&W or Southern
> prototype tipple/tower.  Digging around the archives, I found little that
> could help me. I obtained an old Model Railroader booklet on coal, however
> once again with the exception of a few photos, not much use.
> >
> > Could you gentlemen point me in the right direction? As this is in N
> scale, I am hoping I can find something not too detailed (but detailed
> enough). Am I on a fool's errand?
> >
> > Thank you in advance.  Steve Clark #4269
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> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2025 16:44:12 +0000 (UTC)
> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower
> Message-ID: <mailman.8443.1757353315.722595.nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>  Thank you again, Ken! I couldn't image that the archives would not have a
> wealth of information. I merely used the wrong search terms.?
>     On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 11:17:33 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
>  Here is a search reference to some coaling facilities, both N&W and VGN
> in the Archives
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=675
>
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=coal+wharf
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=14
>
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=Norfolk+type
>
> Searching the archives can be a bit touchy, and not always what you expect
> to find with your search terms. These probably are not every possibility,
> but may help narrow it down.
>
> There are some excellent drawings available in the Archives on these
> things.
>
> Just so you know, I am not including a coal tipple in the search, as a
> tipple refers typically to a coal company facility for loading hoppers, not
> locomotives.
>
> But if you search for it, you can find some interesting facilities there
> as well.
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=566
>
> Best
> Ken Miller
>
> > On Sep 8, 2025, at 11:00 AM, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Marty. I will look for those books. The Archives has limited
> information....not as detailed as I would like.
> >
> > On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 10:55:27 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > In addition to searching the NWHS online Archives, I would recommend two
> books, both written by Thomas Dixon and published by TLC:
> >
> > "Steam Locomotive Coaling Stations and Diesel Locomotive Fueling
> Facilities"
> >
> > "Steam and Diesel Locomotive Terminals and Service Facilities"
> >
> > Both break down facilities by type (wood coaling stations, concrete
> stations, etc...), and feature plenty of photographs and drawings,
> including N&W prototypes.?
> >
> > Marty Flick
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> >
> > From: "NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List"
> > To: "nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org"
> > Cc: "NW Modeling List"
> > Sent: Friday September 5 2025 6:45:40AM
> > Subject: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower
> >
> > I am currently building a Gloor Craft (1980's vintage) N scale coaling
> tower.? As this is not N&W specific, I assume I cannot enter the modeling
> contest at a convention. That said, all the photos I have seen all appear
> radically different; therefore, if there is a book or resource of all of
> the N&W/Southern towers/tipples, perhaps the Gloor Craft model might be a
> close approximation of one.
> >
> > Assuming not, I would like to model a tower of a N&W or Southern
> prototype tipple/tower.? Digging around the archives, I found little that
> could help me. I obtained an old Model Railroader booklet on coal, however
> once again with the exception of a few photos, not much use.
> >
> > Could you gentlemen point me in the right direction? As this is in N
> scale, I am hoping I can find something not too detailed (but detailed
> enough). Am I on a fool's errand?
> >
> > Thank you in advance.? Steve Clark #4269
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