NW-Modeling-List Digest, Vol 276, Issue 6

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Steve,

I forgot about Pritchard. That would be a good one with plans, etc.

Bill

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> This will be a bad news/good news message.  I currently use the photo and
> drawing archives of three different RRHS's: NWHS, COHS, and NYCSHS.  The
> technique for extracting stuff from all three is just a little bit
> different, but none are very difficult.  If I can do it, anybody can. The
> trick is to leisurely (not when you're fighting an article deadline) finger
> your way through it.  Starting with the facts that they all use different
> indexing/nomenclature systems.  But once you learn it, and remember which
> one you're in, the efforts are well worth it.
>
> And in case anyone asks, the reason the systems are different is that they
> were set up by different programming types in Roanoke, Clifton Forge, and
> Cleveland, and the guys who set them up had to pretty much write their own
> programs, as at that time there was nothing off-the-shelf that was
> suitable, and there was more diversity in some of the more popular programs
> than now.  If memory serves, the first toe in the water of computers for
> COHS was done on a TRS-80 (I probably screwed up the number)that may have
> been steam driven (LOL)
>
> Frank Bongiovanni
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 1:42?PM NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
> > Thank you again, Ken! I couldn't image that the archives would not have a
> > wealth of information. I merely used the wrong search terms.
> >
> > On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 11:17:33 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <
> > nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Here is a search reference to some coaling facilities, both N&W and VGN
> in
> > the Archives
> >
> > https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=675
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=coal+wharf
> >
> > https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=14
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=Norfolk+type
> >
> > Searching the archives can be a bit touchy, and not always what you
> expect
> > to find with your search terms. These probably are not every possibility,
> > but may help narrow it down.
> >
> > There are some excellent drawings available in the Archives on these
> > things.
> >
> > Just so you know, I am not including a coal tipple in the search, as a
> > tipple refers typically to a coal company facility for loading hoppers,
> not
> > locomotives.
> >
> > But if you search for it, you can find some interesting facilities there
> > as well.
> >
> > https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=566
> >
> > Best
> > Ken Miller
> >
> > > On Sep 8, 2025, at 11:00 AM, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <
> > nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you Marty. I will look for those books. The Archives has limited
> > information....not as detailed as I would like.
> > >
> > > On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 10:55:27 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <
> > nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > In addition to searching the NWHS online Archives, I would recommend
> two
> > books, both written by Thomas Dixon and published by TLC:
> > >
> > > "Steam Locomotive Coaling Stations and Diesel Locomotive Fueling
> > Facilities"
> > >
> > > "Steam and Diesel Locomotive Terminals and Service Facilities"
> > >
> > > Both break down facilities by type (wood coaling stations, concrete
> > stations, etc...), and feature plenty of photographs and drawings,
> > including N&W prototypes.
> > >
> > > Marty Flick
> > >
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > >
> > > From: "NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List"
> > > To: "nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org"
> > > Cc: "NW Modeling List"
> > > Sent: Friday September 5 2025 6:45:40AM
> > > Subject: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower
> > >
> > > I am currently building a Gloor Craft (1980's vintage) N scale coaling
> > tower.  As this is not N&W specific, I assume I cannot enter the modeling
> > contest at a convention. That said, all the photos I have seen all appear
> > radically different; therefore, if there is a book or resource of all of
> > the N&W/Southern towers/tipples, perhaps the Gloor Craft model might be a
> > close approximation of one.
> > >
> > > Assuming not, I would like to model a tower of a N&W or Southern
> > prototype tipple/tower.  Digging around the archives, I found little that
> > could help me. I obtained an old Model Railroader booklet on coal,
> however
> > once again with the exception of a few photos, not much use.
> > >
> > > Could you gentlemen point me in the right direction? As this is in N
> > scale, I am hoping I can find something not too detailed (but detailed
> > enough). Am I on a fool's errand?
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance.  Steve Clark #4269
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>  Hi Bill,
> Agree, I am facing a formidable challenge for sure. The latest
> (April-June) of?The Arrow has nice photos/drawings of the station in
> Prichard. The concrete work, while still a challenge, would be doable in
> wood. I am pretty handy with a scroll saw. The metal work would be a bear.
> That same Arrow had a rendering of a company house. I have built small
> wooden kit structures and, while not a pro, have learned enough on how to
> build those reasonable well.
> All of that said, I don't back down from challenges, so once I complete
> the Gloor Craft tipple, I will probably tackle a coaling station.? I will
> look up those references you provided.
> Thanks for replying back to me.? Steve
>
>     On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 03:54:51 PM EDT, NW Modeling List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
>  Coaling Stations
> Steve,
> I wish I could help you with drawings, but I don't have any. You may have
> to pick a prototype version and scale something?from photos that fits your
> scale and layout.?
> Putting aside the big facilities?at Norfolk, Roanoke, Bluefield and
> Williamson, there were a number?of concrete structures?between those
> endpoints: Vicker/Walton, Farm, and Iaeger. They were of different sizes
> and complexity, with the one at Auville Yard, Iaeger, being the least
> complex. Having said that, the basic structures were each straightforward,
> but the steel "rigging" of each was complex, and would be a challenge even
> in HO scale.
> There was a smaller facility at Shenandoah, VA, but the "rigging" was very
> complex.
> The volume "The N&W As I Knew It", published by the Society, has photos of
> Vicker (page 98) and Shenandoah?(page 136). I don't have photos of Auville
> or Farm at hand, but they are around.
> Hope this helps,Bill McClure
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> ? ?1. tour (NW Modeling List)
> ? ?2. RE: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower (NW Modeling List)
> ? ?3. Re: tour (NW Modeling List)
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> David Baker has graciously invited us all to a tour of his fabulous layout
> via Zoom.? I will set up a Zoom session for Sunday evening, September 21st
> at 8:00 p.m. to facilitate this event and send it out a little closer to
> time? Please plan to attend as I think you will enjoy seeing what David has
> done and his methods and techniques for doing some really beautiful work.
>
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> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> To: "'NW Modeling List'" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: RE: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower
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> In addition to searching the NWHS online Archives, I would recommend
> two books, both written by Thomas Dixon and published by TLC:
> "Steam Locomotive Coaling Stations and Diesel Locomotive Fueling
> Facilities"
> "Steam and Diesel Locomotive Terminals and Service Facilities"
> Both break down facilities by type (wood coaling stations, concrete
> stations, etc...), and feature plenty of photographs and drawings,
> including N&W prototypes.
> Marty Flick
>
> ? ? ? ? -----------------------------------------From: "NW Modeling List
> via
> NW-Modeling-List"
> To: "nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org"
> Cc: "NW Modeling List"
> Sent: Friday September 5 2025 6:45:40AM
> Subject: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower
>
> ? I am currently building a Gloor Craft (1980's vintage) N scale
> coaling tower. As this is not N&W specific, I assume I cannot enter
> the modeling contest at a convention. That said, all the photos I have
> seen all appear radically different; therefore, if there is a book or
> resource of all of the N&W/Southern towers/tipples, perhaps the Gloor
> Craft model might be a close approximation of one.
> ?Assuming not, I would like to model a tower of a N&W or Southern
> prototype tipple/tower. Digging around the archives, I found little
> that could help me. I obtained an old Model Railroader booklet on
> coal, however once again with the exception of a few photos, not much
> use.
> ?Could you gentlemen point me in the right direction? As this is in N
> scale, I am hoping I can find something not too detailed (but detailed
> enough). Am I on a fool's errand?
> ?Thank you in advance. Steve Clark #4269
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> ?Thumb up!!
> ? ? On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 09:42:57 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:? ?
>
>
> David Baker has graciously invited us all to a tour of hisfabulous layout
> via Zoom.? I will set upa Zoom session for Sunday evening, September 21st
> at 8:00 p.m. to facilitatethis event and send it out a little closer to
> time? Please plan to attend as I think you willenjoy seeing what David has
> done and his methods and techniques for doing somereally beautiful work.
>
> Jim Cochran
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> To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
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> ?Thank you Marty. I will look for those books. The Archives has limited
> information....not as detailed as I would like.?
> ? ? On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 10:55:27 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:? ?
>
> ?In addition to searching the NWHS online Archives, I would recommend two
> books, both written by Thomas Dixon and published by TLC:
> "Steam Locomotive Coaling Stations and Diesel Locomotive Fueling
> Facilities"
> "Steam and Diesel Locomotive Terminals and Service Facilities"
> Both break down facilities by type (wood coaling stations, concrete
> stations, etc...), and feature plenty of photographs and drawings,
> including N&W prototypes.??
> Marty Flick
>
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: "NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List"
> To: "nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org"
> Cc: "NW Modeling List"
> Sent: Friday September 5 2025 6:45:40AM
> Subject: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower
>
> I am currently building a GloorCraft (1980's vintage) N scale coaling
> tower.? As this is notN&W specific, I assume I cannot enter the modeling
> contest at aconvention. That said, all the photos I have seen all
> appearradically different; therefore, if there is a book or resource ofall
> of the N&W/Southern towers/tipples, perhaps the Gloor Craftmodel might be a
> close approximation of one.
> Assuming not, I would like tomodel a tower of a N&W or Southern
> prototypetipple/tower.? Digging around the archives, I found littlethat
> could help me. I obtained an old Model Railroader booklet oncoal, however
> once again with the exception of a few photos, notmuch use.
> Could you gentlemen point me inthe right direction? As this is in N scale,
> I am hoping I can findsomething not too detailed (but detailed enough). Am
> I on a fool'serrand?
> Thank you in advance.?Steve Clark
> #4269________________________________________
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> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower
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> Here is a search reference to some coaling facilities, both N&W and VGN in
> the Archives
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=675
>
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=coal+wharf
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=14
>
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=Norfolk+type
>
> Searching the archives can be a bit touchy, and not always what you expect
> to find with your search terms. These probably are not every possibility,
> but may help narrow it down.
>
> There are some excellent drawings available in the Archives on these
> things.
>
> Just so you know, I am not including a coal tipple in the search, as a
> tipple refers typically to a coal company facility for loading hoppers, not
> locomotives.
>
> But if you search for it, you can find some interesting facilities there
> as well.
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=566
>
> Best
> Ken Miller
>
> > On Sep 8, 2025, at 11:00 AM, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Marty. I will look for those books. The Archives has limited
> information....not as detailed as I would like.
> >
> > On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 10:55:27 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > In addition to searching the NWHS online Archives, I would recommend two
> books, both written by Thomas Dixon and published by TLC:
> >
> > "Steam Locomotive Coaling Stations and Diesel Locomotive Fueling
> Facilities"
> >
> > "Steam and Diesel Locomotive Terminals and Service Facilities"
> >
> > Both break down facilities by type (wood coaling stations, concrete
> stations, etc...), and feature plenty of photographs and drawings,
> including N&W prototypes.?
> >
> > Marty Flick
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> >
> > From: "NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List"
> > To: "nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org"
> > Cc: "NW Modeling List"
> > Sent: Friday September 5 2025 6:45:40AM
> > Subject: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower
> >
> > I am currently building a Gloor Craft (1980's vintage) N scale coaling
> tower.? As this is not N&W specific, I assume I cannot enter the modeling
> contest at a convention. That said, all the photos I have seen all appear
> radically different; therefore, if there is a book or resource of all of
> the N&W/Southern towers/tipples, perhaps the Gloor Craft model might be a
> close approximation of one.
> >
> > Assuming not, I would like to model a tower of a N&W or Southern
> prototype tipple/tower.? Digging around the archives, I found little that
> could help me. I obtained an old Model Railroader booklet on coal, however
> once again with the exception of a few photos, not much use.
> >
> > Could you gentlemen point me in the right direction? As this is in N
> scale, I am hoping I can find something not too detailed (but detailed
> enough). Am I on a fool's errand?
> >
> > Thank you in advance.? Steve Clark #4269
> > ________________________________________
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> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2025 16:44:12 +0000 (UTC)
> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower
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> ?Thank you again, Ken! I couldn't image that the archives would not have a
> wealth of information. I merely used the wrong search terms.?
> ? ? On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 11:17:33 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:? ?
>
> ?Here is a search reference to some coaling facilities, both N&W and VGN
> in the Archives
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=675
>
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=coal+wharf
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=14
>
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=search&Searchword=Norfolk+type
>
> Searching the archives can be a bit touchy, and not always what you expect
> to find with your search terms. These probably are not every possibility,
> but may help narrow it down.
>
> There are some excellent drawings available in the Archives on these
> things.
>
> Just so you know, I am not including a coal tipple in the search, as a
> tipple refers typically to a coal company facility for loading hoppers, not
> locomotives.
>
> But if you search for it, you can find some interesting facilities there
> as well.
>
> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=S&id=566
>
> Best
> Ken Miller
>
> > On Sep 8, 2025, at 11:00 AM, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Marty. I will look for those books. The Archives has limited
> information....not as detailed as I would like.
> >
> > On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 10:55:27 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > In addition to searching the NWHS online Archives, I would recommend two
> books, both written by Thomas Dixon and published by TLC:
> >
> > "Steam Locomotive Coaling Stations and Diesel Locomotive Fueling
> Facilities"
> >
> > "Steam and Diesel Locomotive Terminals and Service Facilities"
> >
> > Both break down facilities by type (wood coaling stations, concrete
> stations, etc...), and feature plenty of photographs and drawings,
> including N&W prototypes.?
> >
> > Marty Flick
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> >
> > From: "NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List"
> > To: "nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org"
> > Cc: "NW Modeling List"
> > Sent: Friday September 5 2025 6:45:40AM
> > Subject: Modeling Coal Tipples/Tower
> >
> > I am currently building a Gloor Craft (1980's vintage) N scale coaling
> tower.? As this is not N&W specific, I assume I cannot enter the modeling
> contest at a convention. That said, all the photos I have seen all appear
> radically different; therefore, if there is a book or resource of all of
> the N&W/Southern towers/tipples, perhaps the Gloor Craft model might be a
> close approximation of one.
> >
> > Assuming not, I would like to model a tower of a N&W or Southern
> prototype tipple/tower.? Digging around the archives, I found little that
> could help me. I obtained an old Model Railroader booklet on coal, however
> once again with the exception of a few photos, not much use.
> >
> > Could you gentlemen point me in the right direction? As this is in N
> scale, I am hoping I can find something not too detailed (but detailed
> enough). Am I on a fool's errand?
> >
> > Thank you in advance.? Steve Clark #4269
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