[CLOH-News] Fwd: Coaching profession
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Tue Aug 23 17:11:48 EDT 2022
Hi Mark
1. How to reach the "Pay expectations"? following is looking the strong clubs that can pay what they want. Now the problem is turning to club growing problem.
2. "Have a coach, to be your own coach", that will be a coach and swimmers require? Parents can be the key for building up the strong clubs.
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Subject: Re: [CLOH-News] Fwd: Coaching profession
I think that we are looking at 2 problems to keep coaches in the sport.
1) Pay expectations; the amount of money that is available to pay, and what the next generation is expecting for their "expertise". Potential coaches look at built and strong clubs that can pay what they want, and too many are past the point of wanting to build something.
2) Parents have become even more of an issue post COVID. Lots of loud voices, no real knowledge, and a frustration to teach the parents from the coaches end.
Any other thoughts?
Mike Cunningham
Donner Swim Club Head Coach
Columbus North High School Head Coach
On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 3:08 AM George Carpouzis via CLOH-News < cloh-news at six.pairlist.net> wrote:
> What do you think is the problem that there is a lack of swimming
> coaches? A low salary? Are we burnt out? The passion is still
> there, but....
> Hope everyone is well!
> George Carpouzis, OLY
> Aquatics Coordinator
> Bishop Mackenzie International SchoolLilongwe, Malawi
>
> On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 09:40:45 p.m. GMT+2, Mark Rauterkus
> < mark at rauterkus.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> What a summer for me. More on that later.
>
> Today on the Facebook Swim Coaches Idea Exchange a thread came up
> about the high volume of coaching openings.
>
> We need to grow the profession, I think.
>
> Let’s kick around some ideas. And this email can help jump start the
> discussion too.
>
> Mark
> ISCA WEBMASTER
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Diane Jones <diane.jones at borgia.com>
> Date: Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 3:18 PM
> Subject: Coaching profession
> To: <Mark at rauterkus.com>
>
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> I'm interested in what you are trying to do.
>
> I coach for a small Catholic high school one county west of St. Louis
> County. We swim at a 6-lane YMCA that is the only indoor pool in a
> county of 105,000 and growing rather quickly. There isn't much swim
> culture out here.
>
> The young people who were the first generation to do swimming out here
> are now old enough to coach, but it's hard to get anyone to make a commitment.
> The boys' program needed someone in a hurry--I'd worked with the guys
> for three weeks last year. So I've stepped up. This is what I've
> done for the girls program too, five years before. Now I am a 60
> year-old woman coaching both.
>
> It's cool, I love doing it. I don't look at the stipend and start
> calculating hours worked and what that turns out to be hourly.
> Instead, I look at what I can do to help get these kids the best
> training for their skill level, individual attention, etc. I love and
> care about kids, and that helps me, I think.
>
> I will say that it's a bit daunting to come into this from rec
> coaching other sports. I had a great masters coach, and I use a lot
> of those drills and sets. I do have to say that I find a lot of
> coaching ideas, etc., are pretty filled with jargon. I understand
> them conceptually, but to apply them in a real practice--with no assistant--it's too much for one person.
>
> I really wish there were some materials, especially specific to high
> school coaching.
>
> I do think baby boomers -- I was born in 1962 -- tend to have a strong
> work ethic, and most likely have emptied the nest of their own youth
> and high school athletes. But there has to be a training path that is
> more basic, and less jargon-filled. I happen to be a very motivated
> person, so I've gone the extra mile on my own. I think there needs to
> be training that better suits the specific coaching role a person might take.
>
> I've noticed with my own kids just how pervasive club sports have
> become in every sport. When my older two, now 35 and 33, were middle
> school age playing soccer (and everything else), the big deal was to
> put together a local team to practice in the summer to go to Missouri
> State Show Me Games. One weekend with hotel. Done. By the time my
> youngest, now 25, was that age, the better athletes were doing club
> soccer--three practices a week, far from where we live, lots of games.
> We found coaches that were highly skilled, but didn't require a
> year-round commitment. St. Louis has a lot of great soccer
> tournaments--so we played in the ones we could drive to.
>
> The expectation now, too, is that parents are supposed to be there for
> every single game or meet in which their kids are competing. Multiply
> that by multiple kids, multiple sports, and the expectation is mom and
> dad will be at games/meets most nights of the week between them.
> Basketball was the same way. Swimming is getting to be the same way.
> When I played field hockey and swam in high school, most parents did
> not come to the games. I graduated in 1980.
>
> The other thing is this "stay to play" tournaments--where a team
> outside a defined geographic range must book at least 8 rooms from a
> partner hotel, as a condition of participation. These parents then
> end up out of town lots to stay in hotels, rack up expenses.
>
> This puts a strain on everyone. The young people who have kids of
> their own, the veterans in their 30's and 40's are in the thick of
> this with their own kids.
>
> Meanwhile, I have a 4 year-old granddaughter who started dancing at 3,
> going to field hockey training at 3 (I kid you not.)
>
> Anyway, those are some thoughts I have.
>
> Curious what you are looking at...
>
> Take care,
>
> Diane
>
> --
> Diane Jones
> Varsity Boys & Girls Swim Coach
> St. Francis Borgia High School
> diane.jones at borgia.com
>
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