[game_preservation] A Triumph Of Game Preservation

[Captain Commando]

Yeah! Ask them if they keep an inventory. :)

I doubt that kind of metadata would be considered 'secret' if it's just a
game list. Though there might be issues if they have certain types of
hardware and betas never announced to the public...

-DM

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Mike Melanson <mike at multimedia.cx> wrote:


> Perchance, is it the Sega office in San Francisco? Because that's just

> across the street from my office. Maybe I could walk over there and

> knock. :)

>

> --

>        -Mike Melanson

>

> Andrew Armstrong wrote:

> > Well, as they say, crap!

> >

> > Hmm, might be worth contacting them, this is obviously the US branch and

> > all. Anyone want to take a crack at it? It's the weekend so they'd

> > likely not answer till Monday, but I'm too busy this weekend (or at

> > least, away from my PC) to do so.

> >

> > I presume they don't just bin them and employees take them home, but

> > still...that's...sad. I'll email them on Monday if no one else has by

> > then. Thanks for the tipoff, I didn't check all the photos, hehe.

> >

> > Andrew

> >

> > Captain Commando wrote:

> >> RE: Sega -

> >>

> >> I'm not sure I like the looks of that post-it down there that says

> 'keep':

> >>

> >>

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/segaamerica/2742924930/in/set-72157606602243465/

> >>

> >> This assumes they are throwing stuff out as well.

> >>

> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Andrew Armstrong

> >> <andrew at aarmstrong.org <mailto:andrew at aarmstrong.org>> wrote:

> >>

> >>     Brilliant! Thanks a lot Chris, outstanding work. I hope he just

> >>     says "IGDA" if he ever mentions the SIG again though, hehehe :)

> >>

> >>     Looks like a lucky break, but who knows what we can hope to

> >>     achieve in the future. I reported on Sega's archive pictures today

> >>     <

> http://www.igda.org/preservation/archives/2008/08/the_sega_game_a.html>,

> >>     so there are obviously other publishers with much wider

> >>     collections (and not just of the physical games, as Wing

> >>     Commander's case shows!). Just needs some benevolence, and less

> >>     lawyers.

> >>

> >>     I hope Joe joins up, and thanks again Chris,

> >>

> >>     Andrew

> >>

> >>     Chris Lepine wrote:

> >>>     Per your suggestion Andrew, I contacted Joe Garrity of the Origin

> >>>     Museum and passed along a few of my thoughts. Here is his response:

> >>>

> >>>     ///

> >>>     I'll be happy to tell the IDGA guys the story, but I'm not sure

> >>>     how much good it'll do.  Our good fortune was not much more than

> >>>     sending an email, and a boatload of luck.  We just happened to

> >>>     catch Paul Barnett at a generous moment in his tenure.  He found

> >>>     what we did interesting, and appreciated our passion.  Our

> >>>     'technique' probably won't help the GP guys, but they are welcome

> >>>     to use our success as 'proof-of-concept' to other publishers.

> >>>     Due to our lucky circumstances, I think that other publishers

> >>>     might be more interested in cooperating if they think, "Hmmm--if

> >>>     EA thinks this was a good idea..." (just as long as the other

> >>>     publishers are led to believe that it was EA's idea in the first

> >>>     place--and as long as I'm involved somehow!)  ;)

> >>>

> >>>     Like I said, we haven't developed a magic formula, or anythig.

> >>>     We simply asked, and the planets were in alignment.  But

> >>>     acquiring the data was the easy part--distribution will be more

> >>>     of an issue.  The way I see it, we got the data on the good

> >>>     graces of Paul Barnett.  I'm sure that he told the EA suits in

> >>>     LA, but their legal department may only catch wind of it later.

> >>>     "you gave the fans WHAT?!"

> >>>     We were told that no code should be released, and that everything

> >>>     else shouldd go thru them first.  But Paul gave us a wink, and

> >>>     said he wants to see this stufff out--This leaves us at an

> >>>     empass.  I want to put some of the more juicy stuff out on the

> >>>     net, but I also want to respect EA's IP as well--it's their stuff

> >>>     after all.  There's also potential legal entanglements.  I'd hate

> >>>     to give the Museum a bad reputation among EA execs--everything

> >>>     we've worked for would be shot to pieces.  Dee the dilemma?

> >>>     I think the best strategy is to advertise--and then wait.  I've

> >>>     seen EA do some incredibly nice things for the fans if they are

> >>>     treated with respect.  I've also seen them crush individuals who

> >>>     have good intentions, but get a little snotty/cocky.  I always

> >>>     hated those petitions that make demands of the publisher, based

> >>>     solely on some kid's envy--"It's an old game and you've already

> >>>     made your money--why don't you just give us the scource code?!"

> >>>     ///

> >>>

> >>>     I'll let Joe know about the mailing list - there's a good chance

> >>>     he might even want to join up here. I'll be speaking to him next

> >>>     week, so hopefully I'll get some more details then.

> >>>

> >>>     Cheers,

> >>>     - Chris

> >>>     ---

> >>>     The Artful Gamer: In Search of the Lyrical and Poetic in Video

> Games

> >>>     http://www.artfulgamer.com

> >>>

> >>>>

> >>>>     Sure, all those suggestions are very good - you don't want to

> >>>>     take the

> >>>>     initiative and do any of them? :) (For the archive repository,

> >>>>     if the

> >>>>     data is all digital at the very least I am sure the Internet

> >>>>     Archive can

> >>>>     have the majority of it in one form or another).

> >>>>

> >>>>     I am still in the process (offline) of thinking how to revamp

> >>>>     the wiki

> >>>>     information, and these projects should be listed there along

> >>>>     with other

> >>>>     good fansites/source of info. I can't disseminate information on

> >>>>     the

> >>>>     wiki, it's just a poor location for it since everything is

> >>>>     manual, but I

> >>>>     hope to get some form of DB-run site (perhaps the DGC one) which

> >>>>     can

> >>>>     work to do the metadata and linking/searching to media side,

> >>>>     especially

> >>>>     Archive.org things which are hopeless to search through :)

> >>>>

> >>>>     Andrew

> >>>

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