[game_preservation] A Triumph Of Game Preservation

[Mike Melanson]

Perchance, is it the Sega office in San Francisco? Because that's just
across the street from my office. Maybe I could walk over there and
knock. :)

-- 
	-Mike Melanson

Andrew Armstrong wrote:

> Well, as they say, crap!

> 

> Hmm, might be worth contacting them, this is obviously the US branch and

> all. Anyone want to take a crack at it? It's the weekend so they'd

> likely not answer till Monday, but I'm too busy this weekend (or at

> least, away from my PC) to do so.

> 

> I presume they don't just bin them and employees take them home, but

> still...that's...sad. I'll email them on Monday if no one else has by

> then. Thanks for the tipoff, I didn't check all the photos, hehe.

> 

> Andrew

> 

> Captain Commando wrote:

>> RE: Sega -

>>

>> I'm not sure I like the looks of that post-it down there that says 'keep':

>>

>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/segaamerica/2742924930/in/set-72157606602243465/

>>

>> This assumes they are throwing stuff out as well.

>>

>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Andrew Armstrong

>> <andrew at aarmstrong.org <mailto:andrew at aarmstrong.org>> wrote:

>>

>>     Brilliant! Thanks a lot Chris, outstanding work. I hope he just

>>     says "IGDA" if he ever mentions the SIG again though, hehehe :)

>>

>>     Looks like a lucky break, but who knows what we can hope to

>>     achieve in the future. I reported on Sega's archive pictures today

>>     <http://www.igda.org/preservation/archives/2008/08/the_sega_game_a.html>,

>>     so there are obviously other publishers with much wider

>>     collections (and not just of the physical games, as Wing

>>     Commander's case shows!). Just needs some benevolence, and less

>>     lawyers.

>>

>>     I hope Joe joins up, and thanks again Chris,

>>

>>     Andrew

>>

>>     Chris Lepine wrote:

>>>     Per your suggestion Andrew, I contacted Joe Garrity of the Origin

>>>     Museum and passed along a few of my thoughts. Here is his response:

>>>

>>>     ///

>>>     I'll be happy to tell the IDGA guys the story, but I'm not sure

>>>     how much good it'll do.  Our good fortune was not much more than

>>>     sending an email, and a boatload of luck.  We just happened to

>>>     catch Paul Barnett at a generous moment in his tenure.  He found

>>>     what we did interesting, and appreciated our passion.  Our

>>>     'technique' probably won't help the GP guys, but they are welcome

>>>     to use our success as 'proof-of-concept' to other publishers. 

>>>     Due to our lucky circumstances, I think that other publishers

>>>     might be more interested in cooperating if they think, "Hmmm--if

>>>     EA thinks this was a good idea..." (just as long as the other

>>>     publishers are led to believe that it was EA's idea in the first

>>>     place--and as long as I'm involved somehow!)  ;)

>>>

>>>     Like I said, we haven't developed a magic formula, or anythig. 

>>>     We simply asked, and the planets were in alignment.  But

>>>     acquiring the data was the easy part--distribution will be more

>>>     of an issue.  The way I see it, we got the data on the good

>>>     graces of Paul Barnett.  I'm sure that he told the EA suits in

>>>     LA, but their legal department may only catch wind of it later.

>>>     "you gave the fans WHAT?!"

>>>     We were told that no code should be released, and that everything

>>>     else shouldd go thru them first.  But Paul gave us a wink, and

>>>     said he wants to see this stufff out--This leaves us at an

>>>     empass.  I want to put some of the more juicy stuff out on the

>>>     net, but I also want to respect EA's IP as well--it's their stuff

>>>     after all.  There's also potential legal entanglements.  I'd hate

>>>     to give the Museum a bad reputation among EA execs--everything

>>>     we've worked for would be shot to pieces.  Dee the dilemma?

>>>     I think the best strategy is to advertise--and then wait.  I've

>>>     seen EA do some incredibly nice things for the fans if they are

>>>     treated with respect.  I've also seen them crush individuals who

>>>     have good intentions, but get a little snotty/cocky.  I always

>>>     hated those petitions that make demands of the publisher, based

>>>     solely on some kid's envy--"It's an old game and you've already

>>>     made your money--why don't you just give us the scource code?!"

>>>     ///

>>>

>>>     I'll let Joe know about the mailing list - there's a good chance

>>>     he might even want to join up here. I'll be speaking to him next

>>>     week, so hopefully I'll get some more details then.

>>>

>>>     Cheers,

>>>     - Chris

>>>     ---

>>>     The Artful Gamer: In Search of the Lyrical and Poetic in Video Games

>>>     http://www.artfulgamer.com

>>>

>>>>

>>>>     Sure, all those suggestions are very good - you don't want to

>>>>     take the 

>>>>     initiative and do any of them? :) (For the archive repository,

>>>>     if the 

>>>>     data is all digital at the very least I am sure the Internet

>>>>     Archive can 

>>>>     have the majority of it in one form or another).

>>>>

>>>>     I am still in the process (offline) of thinking how to revamp

>>>>     the wiki 

>>>>     information, and these projects should be listed there along

>>>>     with other 

>>>>     good fansites/source of info. I can't disseminate information on

>>>>     the 

>>>>     wiki, it's just a poor location for it since everything is

>>>>     manual, but I 

>>>>     hope to get some form of DB-run site (perhaps the DGC one) which

>>>>     can 

>>>>     work to do the metadata and linking/searching to media side,

>>>>     especially 

>>>>     Archive.org things which are hopeless to search through :)

>>>>

>>>>     Andrew

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>> -- 

>> The sleep of Reason produces monsters.

>>

>> "Until next time..."

>> Captain Commando

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