[game_preservation] Bad for archival? XBLA delisting rumblings

Simon Carless simon at archive.org
Mon Oct 13 10:58:10 EDT 2008


To be clear, this story was actually that delistings will likely NOT
happen because of the new dashboard update. So that's good.

Also, these games that are playable single player and have online
elements are a lot more preservable - you can play them when not
connected, though they are tied to your user ident. Don't know if
anyone has cracked them but I would presume so. The pirates (for
better or worse) will take care of much of this preservation.

Much more worrying are the titles that are only playable with a server
in place, which is why it's good that Henry has been preserving video
of stuff like EA Online. Those games aren't coming back, through the
copyright holder's choice, so it's good to get visual records.


On 10/13/08, Andrew Armstrong <andrew at aarmstrong.org> wrote:

> With these delistings, it's not the worst aspect - the entire service

> will obviously go caput at some point (10 years? less?) when the Xbox

> 720 or the Xbox 1080 come out and Microsoft abandon the current platform

> (MSN Music tried to turn off their activation servers for music, heh. I

> wonder how long the original Xbox Live will continue to operate too) It

> makes it mute that specific games will be delisted if the entire service

> goes, right? :/

>

> In any case, it's a similar situation with some other online download

> services - Gametap and so forth regularly delist games.

>

> The only feasible way to collect these are to download all of them

> constantly (noting the single point of failure, since MS don't allow

> backups really). For an archive this is kind of unacceptable, unless

> multiple accounts and whatnot are brought - so no doubt the only other

> alternative is to contact the developers of the games for a copy (at

> least which is played on a development kit), or Microsoft themselves for

> some kind of workaround.

>

> It's still only a rumour, I'm sure the "Live update" thing they have

> coming will be part of it if it is true.

>

> Andrew

>

> Devin Monnens wrote:

>> There's the IGN rumor machine chugging away about Microsoft delisting

>> XBLA games (Microsoft is denying they're going to do it anytime soon).

>> That would be a serious problem for archival (even if they are crappy

>> games being removed). I also think this completely defeats the purpose

>> behind digital distribution. The problem isn't with there being too

>> much stuff, it's how it's organized.

>>

>> http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3170592

>>

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