[game_preservation] Nintendo 3DS trailers

Christian Bartsch cb at softpres.org
Mon Nov 7 16:58:34 EST 2011


What can I say... I tried buying Spore. It was a used copy. I could not create a new account. I contacted the wis guys at the management level and was given a simple answer: Buy a fresh copy. So I returned the game and have not bought an EA game since then. I nearly stopped buying games, except for some console titles, and even ditched the Duke, because of the DRM (Steam) used. Now call me old fashioned, and I understand my behaviour won't change how the biz is working. But I drove me out of it, I enjoy what I have, but I really pick every title "by hand".

This shift from selling licences to selling services is a bit... scary.

I say it again. Games will vanish - instantly, the moment the publisher goes out of business or as part of a legal settlement. We've seen titles withdrawn in the past, but usually a few copies survived somehow.

I am not someone living in the past, but I really don't like it where this train is going to.


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On 7 Nov 2011, at 22:45, Henry Lowood wrote:


> Christian,

>

> Agreed, and let me add that it's not just a problem for preservation. Account-based services also make it nearly impossible for libraries to provide access to current titles offered via these channels. For example, we have been unable to provide current access to indie titles available only via XBox Live. It would be great to see some library-oriented services, as we have (say) with bibliographic databases.

>

> Henry

>

> On 11/7/2011 1:40 PM, Christian Bartsch wrote:

>>

>> This is the ugly face of the convenient way games are delivered today. I am very sure we will notice many games missing in the years to come and it won't get better with all the DRM mania and other specialties of modern delivery channels.

>>

>> MP3 was freed a couple of years ago, but videos and games still come in chains. Incriminating those breaking such protections is understandable from a publisher's point of view, but a problem for preservation. So where do you draw the line? And: Encryption is really getting strong. Just look at those mobile phones.

>>

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>> Christian Bartsch

>> The Software Preservation Society

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>> On 7 Nov 2011, at 22:26, Henry Lowood wrote:

>>

>>> Devin,

>>>

>>> are you asking about preservation of video game trailers or of the actual delivery channels themselves? I am a little unclear about the question, but in a nut-shell, yes, there are efforts in both directions. On the game side, there are several collections that are focused on video and trailers are included (cf. the Internet Archive Moving Image collections), but there is some work in digital preservation around environments in which media and software were used, such as at the British Library (and not so much about games).

>>>

>>> Henry

>>>

>>> On 11/7/2011 12:58 PM, Devin Monnens wrote:

>>>>

>>>> I know this is a few weeks after the fact, but I didn't read the message until after the fact anyway. Nintendo has been offering some trailers for the 3DS through their DSiWare Store for use on the 3DS. These included trailers for Mario, Mario Kart, and Luigi's Mansion. However, at the end of October, the trailers were removed. Unfortunately, while I had considered downloading everything there, I did not get all of it. This raises a question regarding the preservation of additional media such as game trailers. With these, though, I assume they could be downloaded onto the flash card and then transferred to an external storage device - though I have not tried this myself. I was just curious if anyone has been pursuing Virtual Console preservation (the same thing could hold true for broadcasted material over the Nintendo Video Channel, along with DSi Videos - they seem to be taken down from service after a few days).

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