[game_preservation] Nintendo 3DS trailers

[Henry Lowood]

Christian,

Yup, that's happened to me with EA sports games, too.   A propos, note 
the furor over the new Tiger Woods game, which basically is just a 
license to buy content via a distribution channel ...

Henry

On 11/7/2011 1:58 PM, Christian Bartsch wrote:

> What can I say... I tried buying Spore. It was a used copy. I could 

> not create a new account. I contacted the wis guys at the management 

> level and was given a simple answer: Buy a fresh copy. So I returned 

> the game and have not bought an EA game since then. I nearly stopped 

> buying games, except for some console titles, and even ditched the 

> Duke, because of the DRM (Steam) used. Now call me old fashioned, and 

> I understand my behaviour won't change how the biz is working. But I 

> drove me out of it, I enjoy what I have, but I really pick every title 

> "by hand".

>

> This shift from selling licences to selling services is a bit... scary.

>

> I say it again. Games will vanish - instantly, the moment the 

> publisher goes out of business or as part of a legal settlement. We've 

> seen titles withdrawn in the past, but usually a few copies survived 

> somehow.

>

> I am not someone living in the past, but I really don't like it where 

> this train is going to.

>

>

> --

> Christian Bartsch

> The Software Preservation Society

> http://www.softpres.org <http://www.softpres.org/>

>

> On 7 Nov 2011, at 22:45, Henry Lowood wrote:

>

>> Christian,

>>

>> Agreed, and let me add that it's not just a problem for 

>> preservation.  Account-based services also make it nearly impossible 

>> for libraries to provide access to current titles offered via these 

>> channels.  For example, we have been unable to provide current access 

>> to indie titles available only via XBox Live.  It would be great to 

>> see some library-oriented services, as we have (say) with 

>> bibliographic databases.

>>

>> Henry

>>

>> On 11/7/2011 1:40 PM, Christian Bartsch wrote:

>>> This is the ugly face of the convenient way games are delivered 

>>> today. I am very sure we will notice many games missing in the years 

>>> to come and it won't get better with all the DRM mania and other 

>>> specialties of modern delivery channels.

>>>

>>> MP3 was freed a couple of years ago, but videos and games still come 

>>> in chains. Incriminating those breaking such protections is 

>>> understandable from a publisher's point of view, but a problem for 

>>> preservation. So where do you draw the line? And: Encryption is 

>>> really getting strong. Just look at those mobile phones.

>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>> Christian Bartsch

>>> The Software Preservation Society

>>> http://www.softpres.org <http://www.softpres.org/>

>>>

>>> On 7 Nov 2011, at 22:26, Henry Lowood wrote:

>>>

>>>> Devin,

>>>>

>>>> are you asking about preservation of video game trailers or of the 

>>>> actual delivery channels themselves?  I am a little unclear about 

>>>> the question, but in a nut-shell, yes, there are efforts in both 

>>>> directions.  On the game side, there are several collections that 

>>>> are focused on video and trailers are included (cf. the Internet 

>>>> Archive Moving Image collections), but there is some work in 

>>>> digital preservation around environments in which media and 

>>>> software were used, such as at the British Library (and not so much 

>>>> about games).

>>>>

>>>> Henry

>>>>

>>>> On 11/7/2011 12:58 PM, Devin Monnens wrote:

>>>>> I know this is a few weeks after the fact, but I didn't read the 

>>>>> message until after the fact anyway. Nintendo has been offering 

>>>>> some trailers for the 3DS through their DSiWare Store for use on 

>>>>> the 3DS. These included trailers for Mario, Mario Kart, and 

>>>>> Luigi's Mansion. However, at the end of October, the trailers were 

>>>>> removed. Unfortunately, while I had considered downloading 

>>>>> everything there, I did not get all of it. This raises a question 

>>>>> regarding the preservation of additional media such as game 

>>>>> trailers. With these, though, I assume they could be downloaded 

>>>>> onto the flash card and then transferred to an external storage 

>>>>> device - though I have not tried this myself. I was just curious 

>>>>> if anyone has been pursuing Virtual Console preservation (the same 

>>>>> thing could hold true for broadcasted material over the Nintendo 

>>>>> Video Channel, along with DSi Videos - they seem to be taken down 

>>>>> from service after a few days).

>>>>>

>>>>> -- 

>>>>> Devin Monnens

>>>>> www.deserthat.com <http://www.deserthat.com/>

>>>>>

>>>>> The sleep of Reason produces monsters.

>>>>>

>>>>>

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>>>> -- 

>>>> Henry Lowood

>>>> Curator, History of Science&  Technology Collections;

>>>>     Film&  Media Collections

>>>> HRG, Green Library, 557 Escondido Mall

>>>> 650-723-4602;lowood at stanford.edu

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>>

>> -- 

>> Henry Lowood

>> Curator, History of Science&  Technology Collections;

>>     Film&  Media Collections

>> HRG, Green Library, 557 Escondido Mall

>> 650-723-4602;lowood at stanford.edu

>> http://www.stanford.edu/~lowood

>


-- 
Henry Lowood
Curator, History of Science&  Technology Collections;
    Film&  Media Collections
HRG, Green Library, 557 Escondido Mall
650-723-4602; lowood at stanford.edu
http://www.stanford.edu/~lowood

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