[game_preservation] Release date of the Odyssey?

[Frank Cifaldi]

The exact date that Ralph Baer saw the Odyssey is May 24, 1972. It's in
Ralph's book. Ralph doesn't know the exact details of Magnavox's launch
dates because he was never a Magnavox employee, so he didn't need to know.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Philippe Dubois, association MO5.COM,
Président <samurai at mo5.com> wrote:


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> Hi everyone !

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> How can it be possible for M.Baer, with all the respect i have for him,

> not to know the exact date the Odyssey was publicly launch and available in

> stores ? What about the date when M.Baer showed up the tennis game to

> M.Bushnell so he went into the idea of cloning this as "Pong" ?

>

>

> We found here a trace of a french enterprise which did import some

> Odysseys here, David Winter knows a bit about this if someone is interested

> (Pong story).

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> Best regards,

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> Cordialement,

>

> Philippe Dubois, Association MO5.COM, Président

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>  Maybe we just have different philosophies but I'm going to have to

> strongly disagree here. The only thing we know as solid fact right now is

> that sometime between May 3 and August 30, the Odyssey was in at least one

> store. Saying "by August" is safe, I agree, but I fail to see how saying

> the first sale was in August is any safer than saying the first sale was in

> July. We just don't know.

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> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Bill Loguidice <bill at armchairarcade.com

> > wrote:

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> August is safest at the moment because the ad is thus far our earliest

> proof of a unit physically being in a store. Again, it doesn't mean it was

> for sale - it could have been a demo unit - but even if it wasn't

> necessarily in stock, it was likely available for order. If we have some

> type of earlier proof a unit was in a store, we can revise the estimate.

> That's why I personally think August is "safe" and the best available time

> period. If someone can dig up earlier availability at a Magnavox dealer,

> all the better...

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> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Frank Cifaldi <fcifaldi at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Why is August the safest estimate? And do we want a "safe estimate" or do

> we want an exact range?

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> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Bill Loguidice <bill at armchairarcade.com

> > wrote:

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> I think right now August is still our safest estimate, though you're

> right, it could certainly have been released sooner. Even the ad - which at

> least proves the system was at dealers by August - doesn't necessarily mean

> it was for SALE in August (it's a relatively modest "come see" - you would

> think they would advertise something so "cool" with the TVs and indicate

> its actual availability).

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