[game_preservation] Release date of the Odyssey?
Frank Cifaldi
fcifaldi at gmail.com
Thu Aug 9 12:29:09 EDT 2012
Correction! I meant the exact date that NOLAN BUSHNELL saw the Odyssey.
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Frank Cifaldi <fcifaldi at gmail.com> wrote:
> The exact date that Ralph Baer saw the Odyssey is May 24, 1972. It's in
> Ralph's book. Ralph doesn't know the exact details of Magnavox's launch
> dates because he was never a Magnavox employee, so he didn't need to know.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Philippe Dubois, association MO5.COM,
> Président <samurai at mo5.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>> Hi everyone !
>>
>>
>> How can it be possible for M.Baer, with all the respect i have for him,
>> not to know the exact date the Odyssey was publicly launch and available in
>> stores ? What about the date when M.Baer showed up the tennis game to
>> M.Bushnell so he went into the idea of cloning this as "Pong" ?
>>
>>
>> We found here a trace of a french enterprise which did import some
>> Odysseys here, David Winter knows a bit about this if someone is interested
>> (Pong story).
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> -----------
>>
>> Cordialement,
>>
>> Philippe Dubois, Association MO5.COM, Président
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe we just have different philosophies but I'm going to have to
>> strongly disagree here. The only thing we know as solid fact right now is
>> that sometime between May 3 and August 30, the Odyssey was in at least one
>> store. Saying "by August" is safe, I agree, but I fail to see how saying
>> the first sale was in August is any safer than saying the first sale was in
>> July. We just don't know.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Bill Loguidice <bill at armchairarcade.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> August is safest at the moment because the ad is thus far our earliest
>> proof of a unit physically being in a store. Again, it doesn't mean it was
>> for sale - it could have been a demo unit - but even if it wasn't
>> necessarily in stock, it was likely available for order. If we have some
>> type of earlier proof a unit was in a store, we can revise the estimate.
>> That's why I personally think August is "safe" and the best available time
>> period. If someone can dig up earlier availability at a Magnavox dealer,
>> all the better...
>>
>>
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>>
>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Frank Cifaldi <fcifaldi at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Why is August the safest estimate? And do we want a "safe estimate" or do
>> we want an exact range?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Bill Loguidice <bill at armchairarcade.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> I think right now August is still our safest estimate, though you're
>> right, it could certainly have been released sooner. Even the ad - which at
>> least proves the system was at dealers by August - doesn't necessarily mean
>> it was for SALE in August (it's a relatively modest "come see" - you would
>> think they would advertise something so "cool" with the TVs and indicate
>> its actual availability).
>>
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