[game_preservation] Release date of the Odyssey?

Frank Cifaldi fcifaldi at gmail.com
Thu Aug 9 12:29:09 EDT 2012


Correction! I meant the exact date that NOLAN BUSHNELL saw the Odyssey.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Frank Cifaldi <fcifaldi at gmail.com> wrote:


> The exact date that Ralph Baer saw the Odyssey is May 24, 1972. It's in

> Ralph's book. Ralph doesn't know the exact details of Magnavox's launch

> dates because he was never a Magnavox employee, so he didn't need to know.

>

>

> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Philippe Dubois, association MO5.COM,

> Président <samurai at mo5.com> wrote:

>

>> **

>>

>> Hi everyone !

>>

>>

>> How can it be possible for M.Baer, with all the respect i have for him,

>> not to know the exact date the Odyssey was publicly launch and available in

>> stores ? What about the date when M.Baer showed up the tennis game to

>> M.Bushnell so he went into the idea of cloning this as "Pong" ?

>>

>>

>> We found here a trace of a french enterprise which did import some

>> Odysseys here, David Winter knows a bit about this if someone is interested

>> (Pong story).

>>

>>

>> Best regards,

>>

>> -----------

>>

>> Cordialement,

>>

>> Philippe Dubois, Association MO5.COM, Président

>>

>> --

>>

>>

>>

>> Maybe we just have different philosophies but I'm going to have to

>> strongly disagree here. The only thing we know as solid fact right now is

>> that sometime between May 3 and August 30, the Odyssey was in at least one

>> store. Saying "by August" is safe, I agree, but I fail to see how saying

>> the first sale was in August is any safer than saying the first sale was in

>> July. We just don't know.

>>

>>

>>

>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Bill Loguidice <bill at armchairarcade.com

>> > wrote:

>>

>>

>> August is safest at the moment because the ad is thus far our earliest

>> proof of a unit physically being in a store. Again, it doesn't mean it was

>> for sale - it could have been a demo unit - but even if it wasn't

>> necessarily in stock, it was likely available for order. If we have some

>> type of earlier proof a unit was in a store, we can revise the estimate.

>> That's why I personally think August is "safe" and the best available time

>> period. If someone can dig up earlier availability at a Magnavox dealer,

>> all the better...

>>

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>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Frank Cifaldi <fcifaldi at gmail.com

>> > wrote:

>>

>>

>> Why is August the safest estimate? And do we want a "safe estimate" or do

>> we want an exact range?

>>

>>

>>

>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Bill Loguidice <bill at armchairarcade.com

>> > wrote:

>>

>>

>> I think right now August is still our safest estimate, though you're

>> right, it could certainly have been released sooner. Even the ad - which at

>> least proves the system was at dealers by August - doesn't necessarily mean

>> it was for SALE in August (it's a relatively modest "come see" - you would

>> think they would advertise something so "cool" with the TVs and indicate

>> its actual availability).

>>

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