[game_preservation] Internet Archive Starts Archiving Commercial PC Games?

[Alex Handy]

Problem is most of the stuff he's preserving is damn near impossible to
source ip rights on. 80's game companies have all been sold off a dozen
times, and the companies that still own those rights probably don't even
know they own them..

Ip is a mess right now. I think Jason is doing the right thing. Waiting for
companies to give him permission would basically doom the project to
failure.
On Dec 16, 2013 9:30 AM, "Andrew Perti" <andrew.perti at thesimm.org> wrote:


> I recently had a lengthy discussion with Jason about this. He's using what

> he calls the 'back door' method, rather than the legal and conventional

> 'front door.' A 'let's see what happens' approach.

>

> Preservation, to me, does not necessarily include making something

> publicly available. This is especially true when you don't hold an original

> to reference from. I'd call it piracy with rose tinted sunglasses; at the

> core, mass proliferation of copywritten works (IP) for free. The intent was

> the same and Underground-Gamer.com was taken down this past year for

> gross proliferation.

>

> We'll see what spaghetti sticks to the ceiling and which falls. Though the

> JSMESS stack is impressive, I'm of the opinion that public domain ROMs,

> shareware, and other freeware may have been a better route to get the

> conversation going from the start.

>

> Martin Goldberg <wgungfu at gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> There isn't for the Atari related games, so your first assessment is most

>> likely right.

>>

>>

>> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Benj Edwards <

>> editor at vintagecomputing.com> wrote:

>>

>>> If I had to guess, I think Jason is uploading those commercial game CDs

>>> to force the issue (i.e. preserve them at all costs, regardless of

>>> legality), probably with the consideration that legal action against the

>>> Archive for those old games is unlikely.

>>>

>>> Or maybe IA does have some agreement cooked up with those games'

>>> publishers.  But I seriously, seriously doubt it.

>>>

>>> Benj

>>>

>>>

>>> On 12/15/2013 3:36 PM, Andrew Armstrong wrote:

>>>

>>>> I wonder who that is ;)

>>>>

>>>> Andrew

>>>>

>>>> On 15/12/2013 19:14, Jim Leonard wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> On 12/8/2013 1:03 AM, Mike Melanson wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> All of these seem to have a release date of today (December 7). So

>>>>>> maybe

>>>>>> they're planning a big announcement.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> A sampling of metadata for that collection shows "<uploader>

>>>>> jscott at archive.org</uploader>", so I would imagine you can contact

>>>>> that address for more details.

>>>>>

>>>>

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