Islands of talk (was [ANN] vfmd)

Roopesh Chander roop at
Fri Sep 27 08:44:29 EDT 2013

I think that discussion about a issues in a *particular implementation* is
best done in the issue-tracker (or some such thing) specific to that

For syntax discussions (stuff like what's the best syntax to describe, I
don't know, citations to blockquotes), this mailing list is a good place,
but they seem to have died down nowadays. (I wonder if that can be
correlated to Gruber's reduced participation nowadays.)

About what's happening in other implementations, there are still a good
number of ANN mails to this list, I guess, describing what new syntax got
added, et al.


On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Michel Fortin <michel.fortin at>wrote:

> Le 27-sept.-2013 à 2:54, Roopesh Chander <roop at> a écrit :


> > I think it's a good idea to track problems found using GitHub issues

> > instead of mails - it's easier that way to (1) stay focused on the issue

> > and (2) locate the discussion in the future.


> You're probably right. Those two points are true.


> I'm going to make a more general comment though. This list is followed by

> many Markdown implementers and users. It is a good place to discuss the

> Markdown syntax and have people raise a flag whenever something conflicting

> pops up or to have many eyes review an issue.


> But I can't keep but wonder if every implementation having its own

> separate issue tracker with separate discussions is healthy for Markdown.

> Of course, all implementations cannot share all the same issue tracker, but

> it seems to me that this is moving the talk about the syntax to multiple

> islands scattered all around the Internet. At least that's my experience

> with PHP Markdown having its own issue tracker. I fear that this reducing

> awareness among implementers of what is happening with other

> implementations, and this might be contributing to fragmentation.


> On the flip side, having too many people discuss pointless details of the

> syntax makes it easy for the discussion here to fall into irrelevance.

> Perhaps that's why syntax discussions here are rare now.


> I'm not exactly sure what to ask for though. Should everyone subscribe to

> everyone else's issue tracker to stay aware of what's happening? That's

> probably too much noise and not very practical.


> Or perhaps the lack of talk here reflects a lack of anything happening. I

> don't believe this. It seems that half the implementations added support

> for Github-style fenced code blocks without me noticing. Isn't that

> newsworthy? It should be for any Markdown implementer.


> Am I the only one who feels uninformed about what's happening with

> Markdown (outside of my own implementation)? And if so, what could be done

> to improve this?



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