Passenger Train names

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Tue Apr 13 13:28:32 EDT 2010

I find it interesting that the cut backs were scheduled for the very same day that Stuart Saunders became president of the N&W.

Allen Evans
Federal Way, WA

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:15:02 -0400
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Cut back starts on April 1, 1958 for the
revised Cavalier schedule and destinations.

One comment, the best and proper source
for schedules on passenger trains are the public and employee time tables
created by the N&W. The public timetables were updated/revised roughly
every 3 months and were issued as official documents just prior to the
published date on the timetable. Employee timetables were issued by the
operating department and describe each scheduled train and the operating rules concerning
each train. Both the public and employee timetables list which stops were
normal, scheduled stops and which were ‘flag’ stops or which stops
had other restrictions.

The OFICIAL GUIDES were massive
compilations of the schedules issued by each railroad and cross reference
information covering locations/cities/towns and which trains came into them. These
were published on quarterly schedules.

While there is some stuff on the internet,
one should question if all of the appropriate notes were included in the
creation of the website.

Caveat Emptor

Gary Rolih


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By 1958 15 and 16, The Cavalier, was cut back to
Norfolk-Williamson. 25 and 26 then started to carry 15 and 16's
head end cars between Williamson and Cincinnati.

--Rick Morrison

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In the
late 50's and early 60's I thought there were 3 East bound trains from Cincinnati to Norfolk.

Train No.

Train No.

Train No.

West bound
trains from Norfolk to Cincinnati.

Train No.

Train No.

Train No.

I remember
3 names, Powhatan Arrow, Pocahontas. and the Cavalier.

I'm sure
that someone in this vast land of information can connect the names with the
numbers for me.

Thank you:

Gene A.
Gloucester, Va.


In later years, -The Cannonball, Nos. 21 and 22 were combined with The Cavalier,

Nos. 15-16 between Norfolk and Petersburg.
In Norfolk
Division timetables, Nos. 15-16

originated/terminated at
Petersburg and
Nos. 21-22 became the surviving train

numbers between Norfolk and Petersburg.
Harry Bundy

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