Steam engines being restored

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Mon Dec 9 21:26:36 EST 2013


One little historical note that not many people today know is that the N&W experienced cracks in the front engine frame of "Y" class steam locomotives after some 14 tons* of lead was poured into the front frame to give it more adhesion for the booster valve was added at the same time in 1953-56*.. During the summer of 1958 one of my responsibilities at the Shaffers Crossing roundhouse was to search for, and inspect, broken parts off steam locomotives and prepare a "broken parts report" for the Research & Test Department. I would keep the broken part to see if the lab wanted me to send it to them for examination. Apparently the extra weight in the front engine frame began to take its toll by 1958 because during my wanderings around the roundhouse I saw a fair number of "Y" class front frames where a wheel set had been dropped and a crack above the pedestal opening cut out by acetylene torch and the cut then slowly filled by electric welding by patient welders. So, there is plenty of precedent for repairing the crack in the 2156 frame.

*Jeffries' N&W--Giant of Steam

Gordon Hamilton

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> Mason

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> I have seem pictures of the crack and don't thank its that big of a

> problem not cheap or easily fixed

> but compared to the cost of restoration would be miner

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> Larry Evans

> Kenova,WV

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>>I would love to see it under steam again as this locomotive worked the

>>Shenandoah Division quite a bit. But it is my understanding that the frame

>>under the front set of drivers is broken. That would make the project

>>financially if not physically impossible.

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>> Mason Cooper

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>> That was a very long time ago. The St. Louis Museum was still in

>> "acquisition" mode. Much has changed - different organization; different

>> people in charge; other pieces of the collection in the process of being

>> restored and needing space for display. Maybe the question should be

>> asked again. Just suggesting.

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>> Jerome Crosson (N&W West - St Peters MO).

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>> I do not believe it is due to the feed water heater

>> that 2156 is out of the running. From my understanding the reason

>> 2156 is not being pursued. Is that when NS had the Steam program

>> the first time around they approached the museum in St. Louis

>> about 2156 and pretty much the museum didn't want to work with

>> them. Something about requiring insurance on it that made ti to

>> costly to move? IIRC

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>> Nathan

>> Nathan Simmonstrainman51 at gmail.comhttp://www.t-51.orgKI4MSK

>> On 12/7/2013 08:34, NW Mailing List wrote:

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>> As I read about the various steam engines being restored, or

>> planning to be, one thing I noticed is that all the possible

>> candidates had one thing in common. NONE had a Worthington BL

>> style feed water heater. Are they really that difficult to

>> restore? I know that towards the end of steam on the N&W, the

>> Y3's being used in yard service had them removed due to parts and

>> maintenance issues. Is that one of the main reasons that 2156

>> isn't being considered? T&P has 610 with an Elesco, Most have

>> Worthington SA style FWH, but I haven't seen ONE BL style on a

>> restored loco.

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>> Mark Lindsey

>> Stuck in the 1930's

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