Union Pacific and Norfolk seek 1st transcontinental railroad through a massive merger - Virginia Business Union Pacific seeks $85B merger with Norfolk Southern

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Wed Jul 30 08:19:35 EDT 2025


You know I'm not sure what to think oh this. I'll say I started feeling
better about UP after reading Nothing Like It in the World: The Men Who
Built the Transcontinental Railroad 1863-1869.

David Baker

On Wed, Jul 30, 2025, 7:44 AM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:

> I simply don’t like UP.  My least favorite Class 1.  I well understand
> railroad operations and financials.  I well understand mergers.  I don’t
> like the damn yellow.  It’s hardly a Southeastern railroad.  I simply don’t
> like UP.
>
> Ed Painter #70
>
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 6:49 PM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Ed
>>
>> The UP started using Armour Yellow with Harbor Mist Gray in 1940.  It
>> became standard on switchers and cabooses in 1947.   That is only 85 years.
>>   The Santa Fe started using the War bonnet paint scheme in 1937.  It was
>> used until 1996, only 59 years.     Not every corporation feel the need to
>> re-brand itself with a new logo.
>>
>>  belong to multiple historical societies because I am interested in their
>> history.  Corporate mergers do not alter past history.
>>
>> Jim Stapleton
>>
>> On Jul 29, 2025, at 17:24, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Their paint scheme is tired and has been around forever.  I don't like
>> it.  I like BNSF far better.  Financially and operationally either would be
>> fine.
>>
>> Ed  #70
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 4:37 PM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ed, Roger, and others: why?  The Norfolk and Western, the railroad for
>>> which we are enthusiasts and modelers, has been gone for 43 years. The
>>> classic Norfolk and Western, in some views, has been gone since 1964. Some
>>> would say their interest ends in 1960, when the last steam locomotive was
>>> in revenue service. Even if you dislike UP, and its boatload of
>>> predecessors, why would that reduce your interest in your railroad?
>>>
>>> This may increase this organization's interest in what is going to be
>>> another fallen flag.  Or the UP Society May embrace them.  Let's see what
>>> happens.
>>>
>>> Frank Bongiovanni
>>> Mostly modeling the Virginian, which has been gone longer than it
>>> existed.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 2:41 PM NW Mailing List <
>>> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Me too!
>>>>
>>>> Ed Painter #70
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 1:11 PM NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <
>>>> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Won't matter to me as that would cancel interest! I hate the Yellow
>>>>> Hoard!
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger Huber
>>>>> Deer Creek Locomotive Works
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, July 29, 2025 at 11:41:03 AM CDT, NW Mailing List <
>>>>> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How much are dues for membership in the UP&NSHS? :^)
>>>>> Jim Cochran
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 11:46 AM NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <
>>>>> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://virginiabusiness.com/union-pacific-norfolk-southern-merger-railroad-2/
>>>>>
>>>>> This is on today’s Virginia Business website.
>>>>> Tom Bosquet   #0088
>>>>>
>>>>>
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