[om-list] OM website

[Thomas L. Packer at home]

Hello Rajeev

    School just started for me, so I have less time to respond quickly.

    What are these general principles of language?

    I think I've learned enough about natural languages to know that (1)
they have to be sequential in their concrete instances (there's no other way
to produce sounds rather than one after the other, in time), and written
language is always tied to spoken language in some way, and (2) in general,
whatever patterns there are, these can be represented as abstractions of one
kind or another, which is a kind of multi-dimensionality.  So, I will
completely agree that there is a practical need to represent language
multi-dimensionally, but it should be tied to the concrete form of language
which is linear, sequential.

    Eventually, I'd like to expand this language-definition to
not-so-natural languages, including graphs and tables, which are obviously
not sequential, even in their concrete instances.

    Also, to protect the other OM members from being too closely associated
with my words and ideas, OM has not decided to adopt any of my ASP ideas.
This is my own side project.

    Ok, about "mathetical", you're close.  Mathetical is the adjective form
of Mathesis, which is a word I am borrowing from Descartes, the famous
European mathematician and philosopher of the Age of Enlightenment.  He
wanted to invent a new, more universal mathematics, including a more
universal or general-purpose method of thought, which he was calling
"mathesis universalis".  About the time I discovered this, I became
interested in making a general model of knowledge, and a general model of
inference and thought, so I borrowed his term, which does seem to mean both
"language" and "method" at the same time, which covered one of my necessary
dichotomies: form and function, static and dynamic.

    So mathesis is like mathematics, but it is intended to be better.  I
intend it to be able to represent anything that mathematics can, as well as
all valid logic, and every other form of useful thought and inference.

    I'll see if I can find you links sometime.

    good luck,

tomp

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----- Original Message -----
From: "MrM0j0r15n Rajeev the kanehbosm" <electrickanehbosm at hotmail.com>
To: <om-list at onemodel.org>
Sent: Sunday, 01 September, 2002 08:38
Subject: [om-list] OM website


>
> Hello all friends,
>
> Thank you Mr Call for your kind compliments, perhaps too kind :)
>
> I have a comment on the ASP-type syntax. I have read that human language
> itself is not based on the traditional rules of relative clauses, NP, VP,
> etc, rather these things are indicative of a more general principle(s) of
> "language" that is independent of any particular language. Also, i have
read
> that language is not linear or sequential as one would like to have it :).
> Given this, is the ASP route suitable for OM ?
>
> btw, is "mathetical" a short way of saying mathematical ?
>
> Also, i am not receiving the daily digests from the mailing list. I am
using
> hotmail. Can anyone help me on this ?
>
> I have gone through the archives and i saw a lot of information concerning
> "nodes, metanodes and internodes". It seems that the archives refer to
other
> emails not in the archive. Is there anyway i can access these emails ?
>
> mr call - i think the information in the emails is very valuable other
than
> its application to OM. i am going through them, and i may be able to
> seperate them into different pages. Since i am learning DocBook at
present,
> i may be able to give this information some structure. I shall try it, and
> relay the results on this list. is that acceptable to u ? Also, we do not
> have a logo of any sort. perhaps i can get a designer in one of my teams
to
> create one ?
>
> You have said earlier that you are developing a personal organizer. is it
a
> client-server arch, or is it standalone ?
>
> on a personal note, i am developing a curriculum for software  and
knowledge
> engineering at the undergraduate level. Anyone know any links, online
> papers, etc where i can get more information on learning organizations,
> education methodology etc ?
>
> thank you
> insanekane
>
>
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