[StBernard] civilians at the Corps

[Westley Annis]

I have not worked for the Corps but I have worked for several agencies in
DOD.

Civilians do not work at the pleasure of the military; they work under Civil
Service laws.

I personally saw a Master Chief Petty Office in the Navy who was removed
from his position in charge of the data center.  What did he do?  He
falsified, no he just didn't forward, the paperwork on an employee who was
injured on the job.  The employee checked with the personnel office on the
paper work (her copy).  The master chief was removed and assigned to a
transient personnel unit prior to his unintended retirement.

I do understand the chain of command in that SecDef is a civilian as is the
Sec'y of the Army, Navy, Air Force, etc.

JLY

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	Unless you have worked for the COE, you may not be aware that even
the
	highest level civilians
	work at the pleasure of the military either overtly or covertly. In
other
	words, high ranking civilians
	have been forced out or committed career suicide because they spoke
out of
	turn, didn't give Congress the testimony that the military
wanted,etc. You
	seem to have an impression that the civilians are in charge of the
military.
	Look at the name-U S ARMY, Corps of Engineers. Ever wonder why some
in
	Congress want the civilian works pulled away and placed under a
civilian
	department, like the Dept of the Interior, or some new civilian
dept. It's
	because they know it is a military organization and the inner circle
is as
	military as
	any other branch of the military, except the Corps has a civilian,
public
	works mission in addition to a 
	military mission. I have great respect for the US military. I was
only
	pointing out that the military engineer is trained and educated very
	differently than a civilian civil engineer. Flood protection falls
under the
	military engineers at a national level. ddk